[LBS_Les]

I am Canadian

But the results will have a huge impact on Canada and on the world.

My Canadian friends and family are watching very carefully.

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Yes and Yes ....we are watching closely, it is talked about everyday , we are "nervous"  as many that I talk with know precisely what we hope happens.  To us , the United States is in a state of utter chaos as a result of a lack of leadership, COVID that seemingly is being ignored and the loss of life is heartbreaking , riots and division .  It truly is very concerning and scary . I hope something far better happens for our friends in the states.

Barbie, as a Canadian, I have to say, I dont know how this will impact us.   Our government seems to be turned off by American Politics and doesn't seem to stand for what's happening down there (e.g. When trump wanted to refuse PPE distribution to us).

But happy to understand the long term implications a possible Trump relection may bring to us.

[Thunder]

"I cannot believe its a close race when the rights of so many, are being infringed upon."

I agree 100%!!!!

[xyzcf]

First I just wanted to make clear that I still am a Canadian citizen. I became a US citizen 4 years ago and have lived in 2 states since 2003.
The president of the US is an important force worldwide. Two areas that already impact Canada are pulling out of the Paris climate accord and the WHO.
Many Canadians work for US companies. There are much stricter rules about bringing Canadians to fill US positions which can impact the ability to rise in your company’s hierarchy.
Tourism is important to both countries. I know many Canadians who do not wish to spend vacation dollars in the US.
There are many other examples. It may not affect the day to day life in Canada but it will have economic and social implications for many on both sides of the border. Including the perception that many have of Americans.

[LBS_Les]

First I just wanted to make clear that I still am a Canadian citizen. I became a US citizen 4 years ago and have lived in 2 states since 2003.
The president of the US is an important force worldwide. Two areas that already impact Canada are pulling out of the Paris climate accord and the WHO.
Many Canadians work for US companies. There are much stricter rules about bringing Canadians to fill US positions which can impact the ability to rise in your company’s hierarchy.
Tourism is important to both countries. I know many Canadians who do not wish to spend vacation dollars in the US.
There are many other examples. It may not affect the day to day life in Canada but it will have economic and social implications for many on both sides of the border. Including the perception that many have of Americans.

I can understand this xyzcf.  I am Canadian and work for a Canadian bank that acquired banks in the US.    I was easily granted a working Visa in the US not to work down there, but to reduce the number of questions I was asked during business travel, about why I was travelling and spending a lot of time in the US.   At that time, I even though, WTF?  Why so many questions?  And that was Many, MANY years ago.   I cant even imagine trying to get that same Visa in today's day and age

And I too fall on the spectrum of "I won't spend money in the US in its current state", but that to me, hinders the US economy, and not ours?   In 2016 "How can I move to Canada" was one of the most asked questions.   Canadians are not looking to emigrate to the US, but Americans are looking to Immigrate to Canada.  To me, it feels like a win, for us.

However, I do understand NAFTA implications, and to a degree, the Paris Climate accord.   But really, I think a lot of the countries in the accord, will continue to exist without the participation of the US.

[Zion]

I am soooo nervous but not watching. Four years ago today, xh, our children and I ate dinner and watching the election news... at OW and her XHs house...(barf).  Months later...they blew our families up!

[xyzcf]

However, I do understand NAFTA implications, and to a degree, the Paris Climate accord.   But really, I think a lot of the countries in the accord, will continue to exist without the participation of the US.

I agree.
I was also wondering about the ties the countries have within the military? I don’t know but I do believe there are close ties there.
I have many friends asking me about how they can move to Canada. It is something I struggle with personally as well. Before COVID I would fly home 4 times a year and there are many reasons why I like living in Colorado., so that worked well for me. If I were to move back to Canada I would prefer that it be a choice I make at a time that would be the right time for my life, not because of who wins the election.
In the past, even if the candidate I would prefer didn’t win, it was ok..there was not this fear.
We shall see.

[LBS_Les]

I have many friends asking me about how they can move to Canada. It is something I struggle with personally as well. Before COVID I would fly home 4 times a year and there are many reasons why I like living in Colorado., so that worked well for me. If I were to move back to Canada I would prefer that it be a choice I make at a time that would be the right time for my life, not because of who wins the election.

I can relate to this.  My W is American (her family is from Mexico).   I used to joke with everyone that I had to be the first Gringa that married a Mexican for a green card to the US.   She's lived in Canada as a PR for 30 years and always wanted to get Canadian Citizenship, and I used to try to talk her out of it so that we could keep our options open to maybe move to the US one day.


She never liked that idea....she has never wanted to return to the US since she moved from Arizona.   I never understood it.

I get it now.

[marvin4242]

I skimmed most of this thread, and please take this the way it is offered: I think this is a bad idea.

Regardless of our views on the world, and trust me I have strong ones myself, this is not the place. There are so many forums where politics (or depending on view loss of democracy) can be talked about. I think here we want to maintain a support community, because we are here to support each other in one very specific area of our lives. Regardless of faith, beliefs, viewpoints, knowledge etc.

This kind of topics, at least in the US, is toxic. It is not an open discussion. I don't think we need it here.

[billyluke]

i think one question i find interesting is how did the pollsters get it so wrong...again?

I think Washington Post had one  recent (in wisc?)  @ JB +16%...Fox news had one national @ JB + 8%

[Finding Joy]

They got it wrong because much of the country does not trust the news or pollsters because of the way they twist things.  So they simply do not participate or in fact mess with the polls.

Some of the narrative that is expressed here is very much based on the false narrative that this election is based on race or bigotry.  By in large Trump voters supported him based not on their like of him.  In fact his personality is repulsive.  It is based on his policies.  There is a referendum on socialism in this vote, the economy, religious rights, states rights, school choice, pro/life versus pro choice, Israel, taxes, healthcare, the courts.  This is just to name a few.  Not to mention Americans for years were expected to protect the West, but we were also constantly ridiculed. 

This is complicated for those of us who live here.  It’s not as simple as he’s a jerk.  His policies are the opposite of the other sides policies.  We have a situation where one person seems to be a puppet and the other a narcissist.  Not exactly great choices.  Just my observations in FL currently and from TX. 

We are very much aware that this election is scary.  The rioting.  Many of us do not want another mass lockdown.  Not just because of money, but because we have been waiting to live our lives for 6 months.  It’s time to wash our hands, wear a mask, be wise, but live our lives.  I hope I do not get attacked for my opinion.