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My Story Living Through The Ghost
#40: October 17, 2022, 07:19:20 PM
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Your mom is lucky to have you and it is so good that she is open and allowing all the help.
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There is almost something harder about someone being alive and having to lose what you believed to be true of them than someone actually dying.

Indefatigability - determined to do or achieve something; firmness of purpose
perspicacity- a clarity of vision or intellect which provides a deep understanding and insight

Married July 1991
Jan 2018 BD1 moved out I filed for Div/ H stopped it
Oct 2018 moved back
Oct 2020 BD2
Feb 2021 Div-29 1/2 years
July 2021 Married OW
Feb 2022  XH fired
June 2022 XH bring OW to meet family due to xMIL illness
May 2023 went NC after telling XH we could not be friends
Aug 2023 XH moves w/o OWife
May 2024 xMIL visits XH/OW in their new home
Aug 2024 cut relations w/XH fam.
Dec 2024 D33 expecting baby ( XH not told)

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#41: October 18, 2022, 05:34:37 PM
Thank you ML.

I hope you are doing well.

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Well, not much to report.  I did have a conversation with MLCer over insurance for the kids recently.  That's about the only time we converse now.  We are almost to the end of the kids being kids, with S17 being a Senior this year.  I am adding the kids onto my policy so we had to discuss what that would entail.  It's a bit of a risk but I'd rather know they were completely covered.  I will just have to cut way down where I can on spending if I get stuck with the entire amount.  My kids are worth that risk.  If you recall last year I had to take S to urgent care only to find out that he no longer had him covered on insurance and had to pay completely out of pocket.  It was past qualifying event time and outside of my open enrollment so I couldn't do a darn thing about it.  When I asked him if S and D were covered recently, he had S17 covered, but not D at all, and he only had major accident on S, not an actual Medical, Dental, Vision plan.  So now it's my open enrollment and I want to make sure they can get what they need as far as checkups and all.

I had drinks with a friend that was visiting our city the other night and she had commented that she had to unfriend MLCer on Facebook a while back, she just couldn't deal with his postings anymore.  I have known her since High School and he has known her since our College group was meeting back in about 1995 or so.  My B and SIL were with us at the restaurant and they commented that they can't imagine him in old age as being someone anyone would want to hang out with.  That he's always been kind of an ask and in old age he will probably be a total ask.  Replace the k with an s.  I did not bother asking what he was posting about.  Highly controversial topics I'm assuming.  Probably political, etc.

I do have a hard time talking with him about much these days.  He is very, very negative.  And he always has something to say about this person that we know or that person that we know and always puts a negative spin on it.  Or the kids come up in conversation, and I find myself filling him in on their recent happenings and I always find myself surprised that he has no idea what is going on with them, and then once I fill him in, I realize why they probably never volunteered that info because his reaction is always negative and critical.  And yet, it's like he can't see how condescending it is.  The kids also are quick to point out how whatever advice he might give, although maybe well-intentioned, always has a negative connotation, and that if the advice is any good, he doesn't practice what he preaches, so they always find it bizarre that he can't seem to see that it's a "listen to what I have to say but don't pay any attention to how I do/did the opposite" sort of speech.

I do find that very sad.  It does not give me any joy that's for sure.  Regardless of whether we are together or not, I would love for their father to be someone they can count on, respect, etc.  Unfortunately, if he comes out of the fog, there is a ton of rebuilding he would have to do with them, as well as many others.  It would take a lot of work.

In other news, today was Bosses day at work.  We had a breakfast for our team and gave her a basket with some fun stuff in it.  I made a really yummy coffee cake.  Everyone thought it was scrumptious.  It felt good to bake again.  I haven't done as much of that as I used to.  I should make another one this weekend for M and S17 to enjoy.  I felt bad baking and then taking it all to work lol.

Well, I hope you are all doing well.  I'm glad for those that are still coming to post.  I do wonder about some who have not been posting any longer and hope that they are well.  I wish that they would come back once in a while to give us an update, even if it is like 3 months or 6 months or a year has gone by.  You all have been like a family to me and someday it would be so nice to go to a HS reunion.  Still sad that I missed out on Tuscany!
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#42: October 19, 2022, 07:54:34 AM
FW- I totally can relate to the negativity being draining. I never realized how bad it was h til I went NC. Now. I pick up on it more on other people and duck and run from those convos! I like you also just want a good father back for my children and remain hopeful that for the kids no matter what age that will happen.

Your baking feeling good I also get. I really found it hard to cook for a while and I love to cook. Now when I do I make it and freeze individual servings to pull out and I love it. I have on some rough days made XH favorite meals and eat them and laugh. Stupid I know, but I know he misses my cooking and hey, laughter is the beat medicine :)
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Indefatigability - determined to do or achieve something; firmness of purpose
perspicacity- a clarity of vision or intellect which provides a deep understanding and insight

Married July 1991
Jan 2018 BD1 moved out I filed for Div/ H stopped it
Oct 2018 moved back
Oct 2020 BD2
Feb 2021 Div-29 1/2 years
July 2021 Married OW
Feb 2022  XH fired
June 2022 XH bring OW to meet family due to xMIL illness
May 2023 went NC after telling XH we could not be friends
Aug 2023 XH moves w/o OWife
May 2024 xMIL visits XH/OW in their new home
Aug 2024 cut relations w/XH fam.
Dec 2024 D33 expecting baby ( XH not told)

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#43: November 07, 2022, 08:05:05 PM
Coming to my thread to post about a couple of things.  When BD happened, I had this old green trunk that I'd had since High School.  I cleaned it out and packed away all of my precious memories of our marriage.   Photos, anniversary gifts, marriage certificate, letters, etc.  I have sometimes mentally referred to it as the "coffin" of our love.  It has gone with me on both my moves and I don't really look in it, just know that it is there.  On occasion things get stacked on it, like books, plants, etc.

The other day I had completely cleaned it off to move it out of the way of a worker coming to the house.  S17 came into my room and saw it and asked me what was in it.  Without thinking I said, "oh, that's the coffin," and then had to explain it.  He decided to open it up and go through it.  I told him I couldn't bring myself to look at it but that I also didn't want to get rid of it as it had many good memories too.  He mainly just went through the photo albums of our wedding.  He said he'd never remembered seeing them before.  Seeing the items did not stir up anything in me.  I think I'm far enough away from it now and that was a relief.

My subconscious though is another thing all together.  I still have dreams of my MLCer sometimes.  Usually they are in the past, but with a different tint to things, as having come from knowing the things that I know now.  MLCer is always close to BD in these dreams, but somehow I am calmer and I just know that he is not right and up to no good.  And that I don't trust him.  Dream him is the same as BD but dream me is NOT the same person that I was.  I just find that very interesting.  I always wake up a little perturbed that I am still having dreams about him.  I can usually shake it off pretty quickly and enter the reality of a new day.

And lastly, MLCers relative that was in her 90's has passed away, and she was one that I just simply adored.  I remember going to her and her H's property for big family reunions on H's side every summer.  Her H passed away some time ago.  This would be MLCer's Great Aunt I believe, his M's Aunt.  I am planning on going to her celebration of life tomorrow.  It starts right around my lunch time and I know I want to be there to honor her life.  I will probably just slip into the back.  I do feel very right about my decision to go.  She wasn't on FB much these last few years but I have been FB friends with her and never stopped.  I am also FB friends with her daughter, my MIL's cousin, and MIL texted me the day she passed away to let me know.  I do feel very right about going and know I won't regret it.  It does not matter if xH is there with his new W or not, but I am very thankful that I stepped out of my comfort zone to introduce myself to her at that Graduation party last year.  I knew that as long as she is in my xH's life, there will be many occasions such as this one that I will need to attend where they may be in attendance as well.  Funerals, weddings, future grand-children, etc.  The more comfortable I get with it, the better it will be in the long run.
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#44: November 08, 2022, 12:14:24 AM
I occasionally have dreams where MLCxW makes an appearance... Last night was one (full moon AND a full eclipse?) and it was ..... odd.... She did not look or behave ANYTHING like MLCxW ever did but in the dream I KNEW that is who I was dealing with.... Just...... odd.....

And it really didn't affect me much more than the occasional "That was SO bizarre!"  thought popping up....

I guess that means that we are healing?
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#45: November 08, 2022, 01:47:43 AM
Similar timescale here and I posted recently on my own thread that I had a similar kind of dream. And that, just as you say, what I noticed most was how different my reaction felt.
And yes, evidence that we LBS don’t stay In the same place either  :)
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#46: November 08, 2022, 11:03:39 AM
Well, I hope you are all doing well.  I'm glad for those that are still coming to post.  I do wonder about some who have not been posting any longer and hope that they are well.  I wish that they would come back once in a while to give us an update, even if it is like 3 months or 6 months or a year has gone by.  You all have been like a family to me and someday it would be so nice to go to a HS reunion.  Still sad that I missed out on Tuscany!

Hi FW. I'm sad you missed Tuscany too!  I just came on today for the first time in a while and happened to catch this. Must be a sign. ;)  You sound really great.  I think it is always so healthy when we can get to that part where we can see the MLCer for who they really are, both at the moment and maybe even before they imploded. It's a hard pill to swallow but eventually we get tot he place where we can see their leaving was a true gift to us. Can't believe your youngest is a senior and mine is a sophomore. Time sure flies when we have to do and be everything to everyone. And we wouldn't change if for the world. Happy to see that as usual, you are making to most of everything and living life to the fullest.
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#47: November 08, 2022, 06:19:03 PM
Interesting observations with the dreams UM and Treasur.  I am glad to know that I am not the only one.  I was catching up with MD's thread as well and I think she had one recently too.  Must be part of the healing cycle as we move through the years.

KIT!!!!  So good to "see" your post.  I'm glad you saw the sign.  And it opened up your eyes... oh wait.  Lol.

A sophomore?  My goodness he is growing so fast.  Time sure does fly when we are having fun.  I hope you are doing well.  Hopefully you swung by to do an update?
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#48: November 08, 2022, 06:45:26 PM
Well tonight I'm pretty emotionally drained.  Going to that celebration of life took more out of me than I expected.

I had a couple moments of panic thinking about going and then I reminded myself how brave and courageous I am now.  Lol.  MLCers B and SIL (xBIL, xSIL) were getting out of their vehicle as I approached in my vehicle and I gave them a wave.  We walked in together.  MLCers cousin and his wife who I have maintained lots of communication with were in front of me at the guest register so I gave them hugs and followed them in.  There was a moment of wondering where I should sit but I was able to slip into an open spot on an end cap.  2 rows up was xFIL and xMIL and xMIL looked back and smiled and waved.  She elbowed xFIL and whispered I was there and he turned and smiled and waved.  xBIL and xSIL slipped into the last two seats on the end of their row.  MLCer was on the other end.  I thought it was CovidWifey with him and when she turned and I saw a side profile I was surprised at how old she looked after not seeing her for over a year but then I realized it was not her and an older relative of theirs, lol.  MLCer attended alone, but it was MIL's birthday and she did mention later (when I told her I hoped she had something more fun planned for the rest of her day) that the 6 of them were going out to dinner.   (Her 2 boys and their 2nd wives) - xBIL had a 1st wife but they married when they were 18 and divorced a couple years later.  They didn't have any kids together.  She was out of the picture by the time that MLCer and I started dating so I never met her.  xBIL's new wife has been around for a while now.  They started dating when my S17 was born and D20 was a flower girl in their wedding.

Anyway it went well but I joked with my co-workers later that I was drained from being in a room full of my out-laws.  Really, the only one I was slightly bothered by was one of the older generation women who had sent me a nastygram when we were divorcing.  She had tried to send it anonymously but I knew it was her.  In the nastygram she had berated me for divorcing like it was somehow my fault.  Way to kick a girl while she's already down.  Whatever conclusion she had come to was absolutely incorrect.  Here I was, fighting and praying for my marriage trying to do everything in my power to save it.  Her letter was in no way sympathetic or helpful, but full of judgement and finger pointing.  And later, after the divorce I was still the one in control of the mailbox and she sent him what appeared to be a sympathy card.  Used the same stamps and telling envelope and didn't hide that it was from her.  I had already known the anonymous one was from her, but after all that, there was no doubt.  She slid past xH and I chatting in the aisle after the service.  Gave me a little side eye.  I never said a word.

I did have a bit of a chuckle when they were passing the microphone around and asking for everyone to share their favorite memory of the beloved relative.  Of course I did not take the microphone but my favorite memory had to be the one from after the D.  We attended the same Church and she was always quick with a smile and a hug.  The first time she saw me after the D she gave me a big hug, told me how much she liked me, how she always would think of me as being part of the family and that she had observed him on more than one occasion interacting with me at gatherings and she always thought that he didn't treat me right.  There had been a wedding a while back where she had observed him pinching me and she said that it never sat right with her.  I don't think everyone in the room would've enjoyed that particular fond memory lol.
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#49: November 28, 2022, 08:30:33 PM
Just popping in for an update.  I hope everyone had a good TG.  TG and BF were paid Holidays for me and I took Wednesday as a vacation day, giving me a 5 day weekend, which was so nice and definitely needed.  We have had a busy busy hiring season and a lot of work has been done our first semester.  I am also taking a week off before Christmas and really looking forward to it.

Wednesday was just for me to do whatever I well pleased.  Thursday M and I went to my B's house and helped SIL with the meal.  It was a nice, cozy TG this year with the exact amount of folks to fit around the main table.  B and SIL and their S18 and S21, myself and S17, D20 and S22, and my M.  BF I ran around for a while with my SIL although we didn't head out super early and were more there to just browse and see what we might come across.  It's been kind of hard to shop for these young adults, lol.  We did find a great gift for M.  Later in the day, my nephew 18 was in a car accident and totaled his car.  He's ok and the other car's occupant was ok, but he's sad about the loss of his car.  He's working on getting his CDL, thankfully the accident didn't interfere with his ability to get that.

Saturday was all about cleaning and catching up on the home and yesterday I decorated for Christmas, which was a delight to do and I found myself realizing that this season full of triggers from BD is not nearly as tough to navigate so far as it has been in the past 7 years.

Update on the kids:
At Thanksgiving dinner, S22 announced that he got a new job.  He had taken an EMT course in May and he would love to get on an ambulance service but he's taken a job at a dialysis center and he's super excited for the opportunity.  They were super impressed with him and I could see a new confidence in his demeanor.  He has given his old work plenty of notice, which also, in turn, impressed his new work and has them respecting him more as well.  And he won't be burning any bridges.

D20 and Niece 19 are super excited because they got Taylor Swift tickets for next July so they've been on cloud 9.  They have been planning the logistics of their first solo trip.  D20 will be D21 when that happens. We also discussed and started planning S17's Graduation trip for next Summer, which will happen first, in mid-June.  I also can't remember if I mentioned that D20 got a raise.  She was super responsible and went to the owners and asked for a raise, which is something completely out of her comfort zone.  She would like to move out of S22's house and get a place with Niece 20, but the rental market is ridiculous so they haven't found anything great yet.  In order to do that, though, she needed to make just a little bit more.  Her boss absolutely does not want to lose her for somewhere else, so she made that happen.  She also told them she was happy to pick up whatever extra hours they could give her.

S17 has been doing fabulous at the Fire Station.  He seriously works so hard and so many hours.  I've gotten to where I go to bed and don't wait up for him and tell him to just stick his head in my room to tell me he's home because I can't keep waiting up for him and function the next day.  I do not worry about him on the job, only when he is driving to and from work is when I worry.  I sometimes worry that he's being so responsible that he's missing out on being a kid and that will come back to bite him later.  Lots of people tell me that not all youngsters need to run wild.  I think working for the Fire Station makes him realize the true consequences of doing stupid things.  Also, taking him to Germany where he was able to drink responsibly maybe helped too, so he doesn't have that wild urge to party it up.  They really love him at the Station and if all goes well, he could become a Probationary right after graduation.  He debated graduating in December, but the paid student internship isn't looking to run out of funds with their grant until the Spring, and he is going to start concurrent enrollment with EMT courses at the Community College that will be paid for by the District so it makes sense to wait to graduate.  He wanted to know what he should do and I told him that it was his decision but that he should weigh all the pros and cons and then he would be satisfied with the decision he made.

He is even responsible with most of the money he's made, putting into savings, purchasing study books for his trade and new boots and EMT pants, etc.  The rest he spends on food lol.  I don't blame him for that one, he's burning a lot of calories doing what he does.

M has good moments and rough memory moments.  We've had a few struggles, she did get upset with me the other day, although I think she was upset with herself for forgetting a very long conversation we had together.  I was helping her sign up for a Medicare Advantage Plan, but we didn't know that the one she picked she would be assigned a new doctor or have to choose one in their network.  We were not happy to find out that she cannot use her regular doctor and so we are trying to figure out what our options are or if we have to wait until Jan-Mar to pick a different plan.  I guess by the time I need Medicare I will be a pro at it.  After she stormed out of my room the other night, I sat down with my B and SIL for lunch and asked for help.  I am in the day-to-day care with M so I explained that I needed someone that I could tell my M to ask for help when it comes to some things, so that she doesn't blame me or think I am incompetent, etc.  Also, I am only available to have conversations in the evening's when I'm off work, and evening's are not a great time with someone who has memory issues, possibly early dementia.  And to be honest, I was exhausted thinking about how many hour and a half long conversations I would have to repeat another evening because she had forgotten them.  I could definitely use a shoulder or some loving advice from anyone who has gone or is going through something similar with their parents on how to navigate this.  My B's hours have recently been reduced to 32 so he is going to be available a little more right now too.  I think she grew up in the era where men often made the decision and so I think it will be good to defer to him and tell her she can call him for help, then I can be reliable to her in the day-to-day different way.

We aren't to the point that I worry about her safety while I'm gone, but I am not sure how fast she is going to slip so we need to lock a few things in before then.  Some days, the road ahead seems overwhelming, and other days I feel like a real live Wonder Woman.

But, with everything else in my life, at this point I don't see any room for dating, nor does the thought truly appeal to me right now.  In fact, it sounds downright exhausting lol.  Maybe down the road, we will see.  Honestly, I am truly content with life right now.  I like my job, my kids are great, we plan trips together and I can make decisions without factoring a spouse into the equation.  However, with truly the right partner, things would just come together and fit naturally I think.  So I won't completely factor it out.  However, it's up to God to make something happen if it is supposed to because I am not out looking, nor am I online dating, lol.  Like I said, exhausting.  Ha!
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