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Off-Topic Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#80: September 03, 2010, 02:52:45 PM
Hmmm... very thought-provoking!

Question: "How should I behave this weekend if I happen to see my wife?"

Cast Hexagram:
41 - Forty-one
Sun / Decrease

The stoic Mountain drains its excess waters to the Lake below:
The Superior Person curbs his anger and sheds his desires.

To be frugal and content is to possess immeasurable wealth within.
Nothing of value could be refused such a person.
Make a portion of each meal a share of your offering.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is an occasion for downsizing to fighting trim.
Simplicity and economy are strong defenses against the slings and arrows of Outrageous Fortune.
Whether this is a time of want or a time of plenty, it is an auspicious time to shed a dependency.

Changing Lines:
There are Two Changing Lines.
An Old Yin for Line 4
An Old Yang for Line 6
The Old Yin prevails.

Hexagram Forty-One/Line Four:
Once he recognizes and admits his wound, walls tumble down and others can get through to offer the balm he needs for healing.

Transformed Hexagram:
54 - Fifty-Four
Kuei Mei / A Loveless Marriage

The Thunderstorm inseminates the swelling Lake, then moves on where the Lake cannot follow:
The Superior Person views passing trials in the light of Eternal Truths.
Any action will prove unfortunate.
Nothing furthers.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is at best a Marriage of Convenience.
You have found yourself in desperate straits, a position of weakness, and you are tempted to pay dearly for a remedy.
A drowning man isn't picky about who throws him a rope.
The rescue offered to you now is undesirable.
It may pull you out of this sticky situation, but it will cause even greater predicaments down the road.
Don't obligate yourself in this way.
You are selling your future for a quick fix today.
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"Counting days won't buy us years" —Wings by HAERTS
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#81: September 07, 2010, 04:18:48 PM
Question: "How should I proceed in the face of no contact from my wife?"

Cast Hexagram:
27 - Twenty-Seven
I / Providing Nourishment

Beneath the immobile Mountain the arousing Thunder stirs:
The Superior Person preserves his freedom under oppressive conditions by watching what comes out of his mouth, as well as what goes in.

Endure and good fortune will come.
Nurture others in need, as if you were feeding yourself.
Take care not to provide sustenance for those who feed off others.
Stay as high as possible on the food chain.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are a conduit in this instance, able to provide the sustenance needed by others.
Position yourself to nourish the truly needy and worthy.
Avoid situations where you might be coerced into supporting the parasites and vermin who deprive your true charges.
Your own nourishment is an issue here, too.
Remember Lao Tzu's three Great Treasures:
Only the person possessed of Compassion, Modesty and Frugality can remain fit enough to stay free of desperation and keep control of the situation.

No changing lines, so no transformed hexagram.
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"Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past."  —Lily Tomlin
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#82: September 07, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
That is so appropriate, SS.  I'm going to take it as mine as well, as my H isn't contacting me either. 

Endurance is the name of the game here....
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#83: September 09, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
Here is my I Ching result to the question - Please advise how I should treat my H today:

The message of this hexagram is that even those who go through life with good-will and the best intentions will at times meet with hostility and powerful opposition. At this time it is advised that conflict be avoided, for conflict at this time (even if justified) will lead to more serious setbacks.  There are times when a "cautious halt" can be far more powerful than the most aggressive response.

The changes to line 5 indicate:  "Contend Before Him"- There are times when conflicts must be brought before a third party who will judge the merits of the case.  At this time you should have faith that a third party will judge fairly and (if you are in the right), this judgement carries "supreme good fortune".

THE FUTURE "Before Completion"
This hexagram implies that a huge transition is underway; however, it has not been completed yet. Chaos has not yet turned to order. Be patient. Spring time is near and soon new growth will sprout up. For a long time you have sought the end of confusion and a dawn of new clarity. This is your higher purpose, and the way to accomplish this task is to lead yourself out of confusion first. The world is a reflection of your state of mind and understandings. All outer change begins inside you. Oppositional forces stand no chance against those who are secure in their inner purpose. Step forward knowing that everything required for this mission is within you.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#84: September 09, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
Interesting one FHO,
Just wanted to say I'm finding iChing incredibly helpful at the moment, I'm doing daily readings. There's something deeply soothing about getting into a rhythm of using it, it's helped me look at myself and realise that the important lessons are about me, not prediction.
It becomes almost like a sort of meditation or even prayer like.
Now this is when Mermaid comes in and says I'm doing it all wrong!!!! :o :o :o

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#85: September 09, 2010, 11:30:53 AM
Dang!
"How should I act when my wife comes by the house?"

Cast Hexagram:
12 - Twelve
P'i / Stagnation

Heaven and Earth move away from each other.
In the ensuing void, the small invade where the great have departed.
There is no common meeting ground, so the Superior Person must fall back on his inner worth and decline the rewards offered by the inferior invaders.

Difficult trials as you hold to your course.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
It is natural to assume that, if Earth above Heaven forms the hexagram for Peace and Paradise, then the opposite configuration, with Heaven over Earth would represent the antithesis of Paradise, Hell.
Not so.
This hexagram is actually the Dark side of Peace, its unsavory byproduct, Stagnation.
In a time when most of our wants are provided, there is little need for the heroes, the artists, the great thinkers and innovators.
As they recede into the shadows, Idleness, Apathy, and Lassitude come to the forefront.
Peace has become boring, bland, unchallenging -- Stagnant.
Now our attention turns to the quick fix, the instant celebrity, the fad, the one-nighter, the current buzz.
There is no room for depth.
If you are a passionate soul, you must wait for a better time to find kindred spirits.
In these times, they are only curious legends, bas-relief, dead poets.

Changing Lines:
There are Three Changing Lines.
The Middle Line applies.

Hexagram Twelve/Line Two
He knows better than the sycophants how to manipulate the petty rulers; but instead he keeps his integrity and remains among the oppressed.

Transformed Hexagram:
38 - Thirty-Eight
K'uei / Estrangement

Fire distances itself from its nemesis, the Lake:
No matter how large or diverse the group, the Superior Person remains uniquely himself.

Small accomplishments are possible.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are working at cross-purposes with another.
The distance between you is very wide.
The gap can be closed, however, with no compromise of your integrity.
You are not adversaries in this case -- just two persons addressing individual needs.
Ask yourself: are these needs mutually exclusive?
Is there common ground here?
Must there be one winner and one loser?
Could you become partners in seeking a solution that would allow for two winners?
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"Counting days won't buy us years" —Wings by HAERTS
"Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past."  —Lily Tomlin
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#86: September 09, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
Now this is when Mermaid comes in and says I'm doing it all wrong!!!! :o :o :o

Hahahahha!  That made me laugh out loud, Voyager!

I get my readings from ifate.com - the readings are less cryptic and easier for me to understand.  I'm not that phylisophical.  So far, the have been right on.

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#87: September 09, 2010, 11:51:56 AM
Now this is when Mermaid comes in and says I'm doing it all wrong!!!! :o :o :o

Au contraire, my dear Voyager. I think that's just how iChing works the best.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#88: September 09, 2010, 12:06:05 PM
Wow, I just asked the i Ching: Please advise on the status of my relationship with H:

Primary Judgement: "Stagnation"

This ominous hexagram symbolizes heaven and earth out of balance.  Creative energies are flowing the wrong way, and little is accomplished.  Ideas and projects stagnate, and enthusiasm disappears.  Those who are not worthy of accomplishment are on the rise.  Lesser men and women dominate the scene.  Wise men note that the situation is dangerous and withdraw into introspection, modesty and meditation.  Very little of value can be accomplished at this time.

The changes to line 2 indicate:  "They Suffer and Endure"- A change in this line suggests that the only course of action is to "stick it out".  Many will seek alternate paths, but they are equally dangerous.  Those who are both wise and great will give no outward sign of discomfort or duress.  They will walk bravely through this time and await a change in fortune.

The changes to line 4 indicate:  "Act With the Command of the Highest"- This changing line reminds us that the way to move forward from a period of stagnation is to stick to one's core beliefs and principles.  If one acts with the highest of intentions at all times, one will turn the course of the tide and begin to move forwards again.

The changes to line 5 indicate:  "Stagnation Gives Way"- All things must come to pass, and this fortunately true of times of stagnation as well.   This changing line suggests that an individual (a man or a woman) will break the stagnation, and bring about a period of positive change.

The changes to line 6 indicate:  "Motion Resumes"- After a long period of standstill there is new movement.  The ice is thawing and new life is emerging where there was none before.  A period of rejoicing as energy returns, creativity blossoms and relationships flourish.

The Future: "The Army"
Even with a powerful allies and armies, no success is possible if leadership wavers.  Good leadership requires public strength, but more importantly: private discipline. Remember to treat your allies well, and support the greater good.  Success at this time will be the result of strong interpersonal ties and dedicated personal discipline.  To indulge one's ego or one's own personal ambitions will fail. A unified force will succeed. The importance of clear communication is also referenced here.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#89: September 09, 2010, 12:14:35 PM
I've had "Stagnation" several times since BD, I think it adequately describes our lives with the MLCer.
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