[Standing in Patience]

Is any one else watching the program now? Do you see any similarities? Is it just me? he was in denial for so long...

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[Anjae]

Not watching the program but I woke up and, somehow, I thought about Lance Armstrong. Mainly, I think, because my mind was putting in order some drugs related issues and how they work on the human body (will write about it on my thread tomorrow or so).

Think Lance taking so long had more to do with money and the sports worlds. It is a big blow to cyclism. Big money is invested in it, big victories were achieved and, in the end, it was all an hoax. The drugs did it, not the cyclist.

We don't know if he was in denial because he wanted to be or if he was pressured not to speak/come clean. And I kind of get it, he had won all those medals. The whole world was aware of it, now he needs to say to hundres of millions he was on drugs. Kind of tough.

[Ready2Transform]

I was just reading the article on CNN about this, and I actually hope it reaches my MLCer (good luck, I know).  He was a big Lance Armstrong fan and would watch the Tour every year after he got into cycling (maybe his cowboy persona isn't as into it?).  In the article Lance talks about needing to come clean and reach out to all of the people he's wronged.  Very MLC-ish.  He admits to being a bully and going after people so recklessly.  It's hard to see any good in him, really.  I'm sad the Livestrong organization is going to suffer for this, as they helped a lot of people. 

Just a note - his marriage broke up due to infidelity (I'm not sure if that was when he and Sheryl Crow got together, but I'm thinking it was).  So, lots of great points to this one.     Anne, do you think his testicular cancer might have caused a drop in testosterone that lead to some of these behaviors?  He was like a good guy gone very, very bad so quickly.  Like he had no conscience.  It was the first thing that ran through my head...except, maybe he was just a JERK.

[Anjae]

He went throught a lot, that is for sure. The cancer, the drugs, the hardship of win the Tour (with or without drugs it is the big world race).

It is possible, Ready2. Testicular cancer could had caused severe testosterone alterations. Add to it the drugs he had taken and we have a perfect storm, don't we? I wouldn't doubt if the drugs he took would made in horny and cheating. Tiger Woods and other high profile sports men have cheated. High doses of adrenaline makes you competitive but also horny and, I think, a bit delusional. 

I have a collection of articles from musicians, actors, writers, sport people, etc, who all had been through crisis. Being it drugs or drink related, MLC, depressions, or others. Every single one of those people, once they manage to overcome whatever was trapping them on the darkness all say they want to come clean and reach out to all the people they have wronged.

From some reason I keep coming across those articles since a couple of years ago. 

[kikki]

I just watched a small clip of the interview.  It says he is now 41.
He also said that he had testosterone injections, in the mix. 

[Standing in Patience]

Frankly I plan to watch the second half of the Oprah Show on Lance Armstrng tomorrow nigh. I think there will be more revelations to come. Maybe if more LBS watch it and can add to the comments, the will more discussions about: the delusions, self talk, bending of the truth, denials, rewriting of history, etc. He at times seems quite sincere. Like you. I wish my h would have watched it. Who knows if he did. If he did maybe he still won't see any "similarities".

[Ready2Transform]

I predict if he did see it he will probably be personally offended that he had defended him all that time, and then snubbed because he didn't get a personal apology!   

[calamity]

This summer I was trying to explain to the kids [22] what is wrong with performance-enhancing drugs--why don't we just let everyone do them so its all equal?  I said that we would end up with gladiators, athletes would kill themselves trying to win.

Then the facts started to really come out about Armstrong.  His cancer was likely caused by the drugs--I'd assumed he took drugs because it was impossible to make a comeback without help.  But the cocktail of drugs & hormones that, according to cyclists I know, most competitive cyclists take--very likely brought on the cancer; I think the testosterone was blamed.

In the long run, it's unfortunate for Armstrong but might help educate young athletes & certainly the sports world will have to take drugging more seriously.  Even the announcers always said Armstrong's rides were unbelievable, impossible, incredible--they were right. 

No telling if Armstrong was in mlc--he was drugged, then ill then king--he has probably had no 'normal' since adolescence.  I don't think most famous people are playing by the same rules.  But having said that, I am certain Johnny Depp is having a midlife crisis.  I saw him on some tv show months ago--playing with a band [Black Keys] & he looked embarrassed being there.  I knew looking at him he was in mlc--altho his eyes were hidden!

[kikki]

Then the facts started to really come out about Armstrong.  His cancer was likely caused by the drugs-

This does not surprise me - when you choose to put a cocktail like that inside yourself for that long - it has to affect your body on so many levels.

[crazyjourney]

Did anyone watch the clip of Charlie Sheens interview, well worth it, could probably google it.

I dont know when it was off but I just watched it the other day and looked at a few photographs of him, his eyes looked very familiar lol.

Havent been following Lance Armstrong will have to take a look.

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