[Slow Fade]

Fair enough -- I did apply a creep factor -- I've always heard it said that for older single men:  half your age plus seven is the bare minimum to avoid the social pressure of an implied creep factor.

Just my .02 worth. My H's ow fit this "formula" to the letter. That made her the same age as his oldest son. Ewwww. Creepy.

[Braveheart]

I have to say that I think there are just as many LBS women here that HAVE done the work, and are attractive/fit/mentally stable. So I guess it is a little shocking to me to think that a man my age (45) wouldn't be interested in me because of the "potential" for a MLC/peri menopause.
I have worked damn hard to heal myself and do the work. I have gone to IC, sought support here, and from friends/family. I know my worth, and frankly I think I have a hell of a lot more to offer then a young person who hasn't even experienced life. Am I perfect? Hell no, I have given birth to two children & not had plastic surgery. However I also look at other ladies and friends my age, and I am doing pretty good health wise. I am friends on FB with a couple of the men here, and I haven't scared the hell outta them 
So all I can say boys is this: have fun with those 20 somethings, maybe you will get lucky and she won't have a MLC in your lifetime. However I think the odds of her having one are a hell of a lot higher then me having one. If I haven't gone bat$$hit crazy after all my H has done to me.......I am thinking it ain't gonna happen. Plus I have always been a firm believer in "fixing" what ails me.

Based on what I know about guys on the second go round, at 45 you are probably going to be approached by guys in their mid 50's. Guys 45 are dating women in their mid 30's. The only one's that will be dating women in their 20's on a regular basis unless they are very well off will be in their 30's.

[Blindsided13]

LOL well mine also just made the bear minimum.

[Braveheart]

I pretty much agree with Dji76, I have no intention of getting married again or cohabiting long term with another woman. If some much younger woman wants to spend time with me I'll just look the time spent as a gift, I wouldn't expect it to last.

[Mad Hatter]

I pretty much agree with Dji76, I have no intention of getting married again or cohabiting long term with another woman. If some much younger woman wants to spend time with me I'll just look the time spent as a gift, I wouldn't expect it to last.

Would have to be traditional, exceptional, bring something to the table, and then, I believe as Dj posted earlier, manage your emotional attachment / investment in the relationship. And then, be extremely vigilante for red flags and BS.

[Rookie13]

Got a good laugh DJ!

So you have found someone to date who is going to be at your beck and call and give you all the space you need to be a dad and fill your 'part time' emotional and sexual needs and all the while because you are 'honest' with these intentions...she will have no problems with all about you?? lol 

What store did you buy that 'doll' at???  lol 

[MeNow]

What? If she wants to get into these pants, she's gonna have to sacrifice.

[Dji76]

Laugh away Rookie... Put yourself out there and see what you find. I'm not saying she will do it long term... I'm not the first guy I know personally to have found women intereseted in this. Not everyone wants a LTR.

[Rookie13]

Hey, I was laughing with ya! thought it was a joke...

I have 'been out there'....Started the same way you are thinking and it went good for about a MONTH! til she was scoping out my house to see if her kids 'could fit' too!

It was HELL trying to 'break it off' ...just say'n...

We ALL want to 'land' well...each with OUR OWN intentions...

(That was funny MeNow..lol)

[Mad Hatter]

I'm laughing as I'm thinking that not one male LBS here would kick Cindy Crawford or Christie Brinkley out of bed!  I can also think of several 40 and 50-somethings who I would definitely be interested in physically and mentally if I chose to go the dating route.  No interest whatsoever in twenty-somethings, and in many ways women tend to get better with age as they lose the inhibitions that held them back before (non-MLC women I'm referring to here).

These are exceptions to the rule, not the norm. There are always exceptions to the rule; I believe what is being discussed is the general norm. While you can expect and require your partner to maintain physical fitness and health at any given time, you can't compare the average woman to super models. The media does enough of that and is a prime source for self-esteem issues.

Sorry; I white-knighted on that one, and I own it!