[twiceburnt]

And another thing, what is about our spouses doing things with OM/OW they claimed to hate doing with us?!?  I like to go fishing.  She hates it.  She says her dad used to make them do that constantly as kids and she grew to despise it. 

Anyhow, her OM is a fly fishing guide, so he obviously is dedicated to it.  She goes to the "fly fishing film festival" with him, "fish fries" (basically big parties where they eat fried fish and drink alchohol), etc.   And she claims she hates tv and movies as well, yet goes to a movie about something she hates?!?!  WTF!!!!  Hypocrite much?!?

[serenity]

Hi twiceburnt,

I'm just nodding along and agreeing with everything you wrote! Really sucks the stuff they do with these other people and refused to do with us!

X

[stayed]

We get the shaming language far more than women, men have been depicted in the media for the last 40 years as buffoons, their masculinity being exhibited as some sort of joke. Men are shown as incapable of existence without the the help of a long suffering wife, two kids and a dog....all of them smarter than him.

Many of us who have done everything we were could to aquire the traits we were told we should aspire to are now finding out at 45+ it's all crap. We are told to shut up about it and even our "Male Gaze" might trigger fear in the women folk if we look at them in the wrong way....Yeah some of us are tired of it

Fascinating!  The sexes are not as far apart as depicted and believed!  Seems we not only have the same feelings but actually perceive our situations similarly.

Interesting!

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[MIMIx]

Twiceburnt, your post was FUNNY!  Nothing surprises me anymore.  I've read so many crazy things now that my own current situation is looking pretty boring.  But,  I'm ready for anything now.

[stayed]

My h and his OW thought of themselves as a couple of "energy bunnies", old teenagers.  They went to a couple of Night Clubs for teens, no less.  The doors don't even open until midnight here.  My h took great pleasure in telling me what an old "fart" I had become... so boring... not willing to step out of my comfort zone.

Well, stupid man called me one day, the day after they were suppose to go to this nightclub.  Always being a glutton for punishment, I asked, so how was the "clubbing" last night... (dripping with sarcasm I must add), he actually told me this.  "Well, we didn't want to be too tired to enjoy ourselves, so we decided to take a nap before we went, AND we never woke up"!      I said, "wow, what a couple of "energy bunnies" you two are!", then I laughed and laughed... and hung up. 

Yep, they do lot's of things.  Lot's of things they wouldn't do with us.  Lot's of things that they think show how energetic and alive they are.  Lot's of things that they think are screaming, look at me, look at me... look at how much fun I am having since I left you!! Pfffffffffffft... bull$hit... absolute bull$hit!

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[MeNow]

Ok, but isn't it normal when you meet someone to try out things you both like as a way of showing interest in and spending time with one another?

[stayed]

I don't know... you tell us MeNow!  I've always been pretty game to try most anything.

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[Thunder]

We get the shaming language far more than women, men have been depicted in the media for the last 40 years as buffoons, their masculinity being exhibited as some sort of joke. Men are shown as incapable of existence without the the help of a long suffering wife, two kids and a dog....all of them smarter than him.

Braveheart, you are 100% right!
My X and I are always annoyed over commercials that make the man look stupid or inept.  He can't even fold the towels right, etc.  I see it in commercials and TV shows all the time.  Thank God they have smart women to "teach" them.   

It is disgusting, I'll give you that.

[Rookie13]

Well, it's not in our genes to fold towels... ...Don't see many women climbing roofs though???

So they are subliminally changing our 'culture' to do what again??? Get men to have babies?? oh, sorry, I meant fold towels?? lol

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The one that KILLS me the most, is the 2 kids, dog and Dad, watching mom put a new roll of toilet paper on the toilet paper holder.  I almost threw a rock through my the TV when I saw that.  Although, I must admit, if my h used the last piece of toilet paper the man would most likely NOT put a new one on the holder.  Not joking about this.  It wasn't that he didn't know how to do it, it was that he couldn't be bothered.

Funny, that is one of the things that I have noticed since we reconciled.  I only replace the empty TP if I use the last of it.  Actually, there are all kinds of things he does now, that HE DID NOT DO before.  Mind you, that probably because I don't run around picking up after him now.  If every pair of trousers he has is on the back of the couch... SO BE IT... they stay there.  If he uses every shirt in the closet and leaves them in a pile on the floor... so be it... he's wearing a dirty shirt to work.  Yep, no piles on the floor or even worse, next to the laundry basket.  He picks up his own mess now.  Heck, he even wipes out the sink in the bathroom after he brushes his teeth. 

Seriously ladies and gentlemen, I let him away with WAY TOO MUCH!  When he returned, OW didn't allow that, I knew it... so the first time he did it when he returned, I just raised my eyebrow and say, did you leave that $hit there when you were at Miss Piggy's house?  Nope, didn't think so!

Doesn't do it here any more, either... hehehehe!  I didn't like any of this, but there have been some changes, I really benefited from... 

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