[OldPilot]

Well congrats to all our English posters for having a great wedding and a beautiful day of weather for all the pomp and circumstance.

I listened and watched them recite their VOWS and wondered if they realized what that really means.

For richer or poorer - they won't have that problem.

But in sickness or health, for better or worse, I hope that they can survive the pressures of what they will have to endure and have a happy and long life.  Wills has his fathers genes and I hope he does not have his own MLC, or that he has learned from his father and can endure that part of his life to find longlasting happiness.

[journey to self]

Hi Bewildered.   Thanks for posting the reading and the prayer from today's Royal Wedding.   I wasn't sure how I was going to spend today, but decided just to go into work and not watch the ceremony.   I don't know why.   I just knew that I couldn't face it.   I will probably watch the highlights later on, but like all of us on the Forum, it does bring back memories of our own wedding day and the vows we made to each other.   I always took my wedding vows seriously and honoured my marriage as it was important to me.    I do still believe in marriage and don't regret one single day of my life with my h and I do believe that if it wasn't for his MLC, then we would still be together.    I am keeping my heart open to whatever the future may hold for me.

Thanks for posting.   See you soon.

[Butterfly]

I was watching clips from Charles and Dianna's wedding. It is unbelievable to me that he left Dianna for Camilla. I know that wasn't really MLC but she seems like an affair down by comparison.

Butterfly

[OldPilot]

I know that wasn't really MLC but she seems like an affair down by comparison.

Why wasn't it his own MLC?
Rewritten history of their life.

And yes definitly affair down.

[Butterfly]

I didn't think it was MLC because I thought they had a longstanding relationship prior to his marriage. That he never really broke off. Maybe that isn't true.

Butterfly

[Bewildered]

If Charles was in a MLC then its been one that stated when he was 18 and is still going strong!!

Rumours and facts from people who now him say - (plus I have met him as well)  have illustrated a man who is in crisis but not a MLC one on its own (may have been added to all the others) but def an identity crisis, personality disorder, spoilt and selfish child syndrome etc

Diana never stood a chance for any type of 'married relationship happiness' she was just a bit part player in Charles life - Camilla I think, is his mother figure - which is what he always wanted - and she is the only one who can keep him in control ..
Diana too needy they said,  I think she was young and wanted what everyone wanted a partnership with love and respect, this wasn't what Charles wanted he just required a heir and a spare and a marriage of convenience - he just forgot to tell Diana
Love B
and IMO of course!!   

[whyme2]

Today I feel like throwing in the towel……………..cannot say why, I am just too old to play games, and I feel like I play games with him daily.  The text, I will call thing.  I just went online and found where I can do an uncontested divorce for $149…………..simple cut and dry! 

How long does one stand for their marriage…..before they just give up???

I watched the royal wedding this morning and had ZERO thoughts of my marriage….sort of weird.  I was just thinking about the beauty of the church, the people the pomp and circumstance and her dress and his garb.  Not once did I reflect on my marriage and my situation, or yearn to have those magical feeling again  Then it hit me this morning (about 10 AM)…..and I began to reflect.  How can one be so selfish and thoughtless to the person the “vowed” to love and honor.  Where is the honor is walking out the door….all for ones selfish satisfaction.  Leaving me to be a weeping willow in the wind…..swaying back and forth between trying to hold all this together….my emotions, my finances, my job, my dignity, myself esteem……..MY LIFE!  All the while they need their space and time……..
F that!  I do not know, but I feel like just giving up on this and trying to piece my life back together and feel as if I have the power here….thoughts?

[Butterfly]

Bewildered
That's what I had always heard. That the relationship spanned decades. She wasn't appropriate for marriage to a future king and was married thru a lot of the affair as well.

That's why it didn't seem like MLC. The mother figure concept makes sense. She is not beautiful by any means. Though that doesn't matter. I don't like her because I side with Dianna.
Does the Queen accept Camilla?

Butterfly

[justasking]

For me the vows were clear and strong and I actually thought how could my H stand in church and make those same vows and now ignore them.

I did have a long discussion with H at the weekend. No shouting or pleading but initiated by him. Basically he told me to see a solicitor to start the divorce rolling. He told me twice. Twice I told him that I didn't want a divorce and therefore he would have to divorce me. I told him we stood together and took our vows and these are still very important to me. So tough I'm still your wife unless you divorce me! I think OW is starting to pressure him as they have now been together more than 2 years. There didn't seem any strength in his request just a hopelessness and sadness.

He has been here today. H told me he heard the wedding in the car and he arrived just as they were singing the last hymn. I pray that he heard the vows especially after our 'conversation' just to remind him with a truth dart.

For what it's worth I think Kate and William will make it. She has been around him for over 10 years. Diana met Charles 13 times before they married (that's the rumour anyway).

xx

[Bewildered]

JA

IMO he seems very reluctant to get divorced

thank you for sharing your situation with us .......... he is stuck in this feelings of hopelessness and unfortunately maybe he needs to reach a serious rock bottom before he can move forward?? Your discussion with him hopefully will also shove him forward ....

B XX