[OldPilot]

at least she's not insane and unfit for presidency, which many experts professed Trump to be.

Here is where we disagree,
and you seem to like to put words in my mouth which I did not say.

You seem to believe experts of what Trump said did, etc.
Clinton paid people $1500 to disrupt Trumps campaign speeches
then the press blamed him for the disruptions.
She lied many times. I am not a fan of Trump or Clinton's sexual exploits,
nor am I a fan of the press.

My personal opinion is the main street media is very biased in BOTH directions.

To tell me that my wife left me because of what you wrote is not very accurate
and really quite unfair.
I am not calling you names or saying anything to you about your husband cheating on you.
Why is that part of your argument?

[Anjae]

I know the difference between Bill and Donald.

Hillary was running for President of the US, her husband was going to be first gentleman and he was a former President. On this particular case, I think who she was married to maters.

We have. But none of us was married to the President, or Prime-Minister, of our country who has had sex while in office with an intern. To me that screams of abuse of power, powerful president - lower intern.

Around here that would had be seen as sexual arrasement at work, a crime. But, I am forgetting, Bill did not had sex with Monica. That was not sex.

But even if Bill didn't had the affairs and no Monica had happened, I would still see Hillary has an example for power, and a very good one.

This is an off-topic thread. HS allows for off-topic issues. It is well clear this is an off-topic thread.

[Finding Hope]

I understand this is an off topic subject, that's fine I get it. But what shouldn't happen is people being ATTACKED for their belief's. I have very strong belief's about certain subjects and don't agree with a lot of people. MY point is, they have a right to those belief's.

Evas,
You are absolutely right, I don't know what you've been through, and I would never presume to. I'm glad that your so passionate about what you believe. And for that reason alone I would never put you down for them. Just show others the same courtesy.

FH

 

[Thunder]

I agree this "off topic" is unusual but look at the traffic and passion it has turned out.  People obviously have had a need right now to discuss this shocking turn of events.  Why not here?

People are concerned, and should be, about more than MLC in their lives and this has been a good place to vent and discuss.
So many great and eye opening posts have been made.

I have sat here and read, in complete HORROR, attacks on my country that I love because some of the people who made bad decisions with who they voted for. Grouping all Americans into a box is so wrong.  Most of us are NOT racists or bigoted.  I choose to leave those attacks to the attacker.

In the words of Michelle Obama...when they go low, we go high.   

[Finding Hope]

"Let us neither express, nor cherish, any harsh feeling towards any citizen who, by his vote, has differed with us. Let us at all times remember that all American citizens are brothers of a common country, and should dwell together in the bonds of fraternal feeling." - Abraham Lincoln

[evas]

So it is OK to "believe" that women are objects that can be called pigs? Demeaning women is discrimination it is not a believe this or believe that.

Being seen and heard as a human being (even though you are a woman) is a human right, not a belief system. We fight it when we see it in other countries, but somehow it is accepted in our own.

[Thunder]

No eva it is NOT ok to believe women are objects. 

I don't believe anyone here believes that, at least no one I know.

[OldPilot]

"Let us neither express, nor cherish, any harsh feeling towards any citizen who, by his vote, has differed with us. Let us at all times remember that all American citizens are brothers of a common country, and should dwell together in the bonds of fraternal feeling." - Abraham Lincoln

This seems very similar to what President Obama said yesterday.

I think if Obama can change what he says after 72 hours about Trump maybe we should try to follow his lead.

I have been very impressed by all the major players words since the conclusion of the election.

I am more concerned about the protests that are now occurring out on the streets and hope that these people remain peaceful.

As far as this thread is concerned - yes it seems very popular and I have no problem with it being here.
I would rather someone attacks me here with words than punch me in the face in real life.

[Finding Hope]

Thunder,

You are correct, no one here believes that.
OP, I agree I am more concerned with the protests happening. Too much anger.

FH

[evas]

Exactly, and if you're OK with a president who has stated over and over again that that is how he views women, then perhaps that's OK in your household? It is how you yourself perhaps view women? And that's what I mean. If that's the case, then I don't blame anyone for leaving. The one thing this election has done that's good - yet painful - is shed a light on what our true "beliefs" are. Do we believe that every human has a right to be seen or heard whether woman, man, black or white or whatever religion? Or do we believe it is OK to humiliate and abuse someone because they are in a weaker position/minority?