[OldPilot]

The Democrats had a very low turn out in these states, for what ever reason, Bernie, dislike for Hillary, the email mess or they were just over confident Hillary would win (she was ahead in most of these states by the polling numbers) so they were comfortable sitting home.  But it was not because Trump had big turn outs, they just turned out and voted for the Republican like they always do.  Nothing was abnormal about it.

I can only hope this was a wake up call for all voters, who ever you vote for your vote does matter!!  Don't sit home, take a little bit of time to get out there and do your civic duty.  OP I may not agree with who you voted for but I'm proud you did your civic duty.

This election could have turned so much different.  Maybe these next 4 years will be..like we say here. consequences for your choices. 
Choose to vote next time.

I believe this is truth,
the democrats have no one to blame but themselves.

They failed to show up and if a few of these protesters had voted in the right states they would have won.

[Thunder]

It's true, but not all of them.  I know a lot of Democrats who were biting at the bit to, not only vote fro Hillary but to vote for the first woman candidate for President.  We were excited.  Everyone I know voted, including my family.  Minnesota has always had one of highest turn outs in the country in every election, like 80%.  I'm not sure about this year.  I'd have to check.

To tell you the truth I'm P O'd at the Democrats, in general, this year!  The turn out was dismal in many crucial states.

[Finding Hope]

And you wonder why your wife  ran off?

Evas,

This and only this is what has my feathers ruffled. This was just mean and heartless. IN no way should you have ever brought this into the conversation. So, Trump is President, NOW WHAT. No amount of second guessing, b!tc#ing and complaining is going to do a damn thing to change that.

I think that the people out there protesting are making huge fools of themselves. You really want to do something about the new President because you don't agree with him and think that he's not qualified, me too. So, give me an example of how that's going to change.

I didn't pick him, I wouldn't have. But, he is my President because I am a proud American. I'm in a wait and see mode. And truthfully, I believe that there wont be many changes because the President has the garbage of all the Presidents before him to clean up. I don't think that there will be any real changes in my life time. He's just a man, not a magician don't believe he carry's a magic wand. My husband is a Trump supporter, I don't blast him for what he thinks and feels. He has a right to vote for whoever he wants. He told me how he feels and I told him how I feel, and it was over.

I'm done talking politics. The barn door is closed and the horse is out. BUT, I do stand behind what I said, you made this personal when you said ANYTHING about OP's wife. I can only hope that no one comes along and says the same to you.

FH

[terrified_in_TN]

I am sorry Stayed but to me some one saying that they can see why OP's wife left him is personal and uncalled for.

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Callan

Just for the record, Stayed never said that.

My nickels worth, then I am back outta here:

Although Stayed is VERY passionate about her beliefs, I never actually saw her make a personal attack.  Yes, she generalized Trump supporters calling them idiots [paraphrasing..not sure exactly what term she used], but IMHO that was a *generalization* on a specific group of people.  A little rude, perhaps..but it is her opinion, and is entitled to as such-even OP agreed and applauded her for recognizing the right to free speech.

The comment I quoted above to me was a DIRECT PERSONAL attack.

Maybe a fine line between targeting a specific group of people vs singling out a specific individual, but to *ME* one was just a generalization, the other was a direct personal attack.

As passionate as Stayed is, I do not recall seeing any direct personal attacks from her post at all.

Again, just *my* opinion, and how things read *to me* when going over the replies.

-T

[calamity]

Yes Stayed Evas comments were personal.  No maybe she should not have said anything about OP's wife. 
But I understand why.

Last week when Clinton said that all women have experienced sexual harassment it brought it all home for me.  You bet it's personal.  Sexism is personal.  Racism is personal.

edited for:  my error

[terrified_in_TN]

Just to be clear:  Stayed did NOT make that comment about OP's wife.  Another poster did!

-T

[Roma]

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I agree. it wasn't Stayed who said that.

[evas]

No, Stayed didn't say it. I did. And I stand firm: if you believe it's ok to call women humiliating names, if you believe that that's ok, then I do understand if your spouse leaves you. That's verbal abuse.

[Velika]

My son's second grade teachers told the class something very important, which is that many people who voted for Trump did so not because of the shocking and divisive  things he said but because they were upset about the economy.

I believe many who vote for Trump feel disenfranchised. What they don't understand is that they are powerless, and until they admit this they will never locate the true source of their power, which is not voting for the powerful who promise to give them something "back" they never had, but in joining those who, like them, have little or no power. We have a lot to learn from the courage and bravery of all people who have had to work peaceably together to overcome discrimination. It is a lesson the younger generation is already learning.

I live in one of the most progressive cities in the United States. It is also one of the most educated. If you are afraid of what life looks like when diversity is valued and celebrated -- and everywhere -- you shouldn't be. It's amazing. It empowers everyone.

I highly encourage everyone to read "A People's History of the United States." Incredibly inspiring.

[calamity]

Sorry my mistake about Stayed.

I believe many who vote for Trump feel disenfranchised. What they don't understand is that they are powerless, and until they admit this they will never locate the true source of their power

Victim mentality?