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#90: November 14, 2016, 01:20:51 AM
People can ignore or disbelieve whatever media they choose, but for anyone interested, see below about Trump's Chief Strategist appointment.  Perhaps it will now be more clear why people are afraid, angry and protesting. I assumed Trump would choose Bannon, but hoped against hope that the GOP would intervene and stop him. Nope. So much for checks and balances and bringing the country together. No surprise there.

Trump draws sharp rebuke over newly appointed chief strategist
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/13/trump-draws-sharp-rebuke-concerns-over-newly-appointed-chief-white-house-strategist/

And Fox's article wasn't much better.

Maybe the Trump/Pence inaguration party will include cross burnings, swastika art, and a life-size cardboard cut out of Hitler for party goers to be photographed with. 

As for protests, boycotts, working for the midterm elections, and resistance in general, I'm there.  For those who feel the same, don't accept this. DO SOMETHING. And for those who want to rationalize or suggest it's not so bad and we should wait and see, save your breath--at least where I'm concerned. It will fall on deaf ears and unmoveable conviction.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men people to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Re: US ELECTION #2
#91: November 14, 2016, 03:51:23 AM
OP, Personally, I don't find FOX news to be very credible. you are  of course, welcome to choose any way you wish to receive news. I'm more of a reader and thinker to come to my own conclusions.

I'm an Independent, that no longer has any party affiliation and have nothing to sell you :)
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#92: November 14, 2016, 04:21:42 AM
OP, Personally, I don't find FOX news to be very credible. you are  of course, welcome to choose any way you wish to receive news. I'm more of a reader and thinker to come to my own conclusions.

I'm an Independent, that no longer has any party affiliation and have nothing to sell you :)
So what are you reading that is unbiased?
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#93: November 14, 2016, 04:31:58 AM
How about international news OP?

Btw, Paul Ryan seems determined to phase out Medicare next year. Hope that makes you happy.
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#94: November 14, 2016, 04:41:34 AM
The chants of "Trump! Trump!" And more and more swastikas around the country. Immigrant children being bullied, asked to go "back home" when this IS their home.

How do you justify your vote? This doesn't scare you at all? Are you deaf and blind? The rest of the world stare at us in disbelief. Have you Trump supporters no knowledge of history? When your daughter gets raped where is she going to go?

I will no longer accept the things I cannot change, I will do my utmost to change the things I cannot accept.
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#95: November 14, 2016, 09:20:18 AM
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I will no longer accept the things I cannot change, I will do my utmost to change the things I cannot accept.

Evas, Is that the UnSerenity Prayer?


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Paul Ryan seems determined to phase out Medicare next year.
Is Dirty Paul Ryan pushing wheel chairs off the cliff again?  I don't know how that fella gets elected, what with all the elder abuse and all.

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Maybe the Trump/Pence inaguration party will include cross burnings, swastika art, and a life-size cardboard cut out of Hitler for party goers to be photographed with. 
I'm sure that's exactly what will happen, but never fear Mother Jones will be all over it.


All jousting aside, I am struck by how clearly post election views break, even here, along gender lines.  I cannot begin to appreciate where women are coming from with these views, and to me we've approach cartoonish levels of doomsday projecting.  I must accept, however, that I might be wrong in being so dismissive of these concerns. 

What I've learned from participating in this conversation is that I definitely have a blind spot. 

I must confess some satisfaction in seeing someone speak in a decidedly non PC manner;  for me, the rules of political correctness made me feel resentment;  my thoughts, my feelings, as a white male in society are invalid.   

Finally, I see I still am holding some of my resentments from my MLC experience.  I need to let go to be a better man. 

Good talking with everyone on this thread.  Wish the best for all of you!

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#96: November 14, 2016, 09:36:57 AM
I think it is refreshing to hear people discuss this election and sensitive topics in a candid way. I actually think Americans are some of the most inhibited people on the planet. That extends to politics, romance, sex, family, daily life, etc.

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#97: November 14, 2016, 10:17:10 AM
OP, it's not that they are biased, I don't find them to be very honest or factual and lead people in the wrong direction.

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#98: November 14, 2016, 10:38:40 AM
I don't find them to be very honest or factual and lead people in the wrong direction.
Different semantics - I call the above biased and not good journalism.

I don't want the media to be deciding my vote,
I want real facts so that I can make my own decisions.

Don't lead me in any direction - please.
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#99: November 14, 2016, 10:52:07 AM
It is really disturbing to hear what the Trump voters or supporters are saying. I live in one of the most liberal, affluent, and educated areas in the country, and we woke up to this. It is literally 15 miles away from my home.

http://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-church-vandalized-with-racist-pro-trump-writing

You know, I wished I were as relaxed as Erlay, but our country is heading in very bad direction. Yesterday Trump appointed a white supremasist to be his chief strategist. Does it ring any bells? Rush Limbaugh is a raving liberal compared to this one.
I wonder, what parts of Trump's platform his supporters found attractive? We all should adopt zero tolerance attitude towards this kind of deeds. I do not understand people who call for coming together and healing. I cannot come together with people who think that it is ok to draw swastikas and yell profanities agaist minorities, women, lgbt. I simply cannot. It is time to put on my walking shoes for a one million woman march on January 21.
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