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#70: November 17, 2016, 12:36:31 PM
Trump is supposedly filling his cabinet with 'loyalists' no matter how horrifying they are. Who took Trump as more than a joke 2 years ago?

Glad he dropped Christie and his group of convicted criminals.

Guliani,Romney and the woman governor from South Carolina look like candidates he's considering.

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Re: Election thread #3
#71: November 17, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
Is Trump really a racist??....

Thundarr, this ain't the media talking; I watched him say each one of these things. Don't you go calling anyone condescending and self-righteous, before thinking a bit about how defending this man sounds. Mote in thy brother's eye. Beam in thine own.

Thank you osb, the world watched him saying these things. All the way across the world, where we watched the election process with detached interest, we heard Trump. Not an invention, not a mistake, not words taken out of context.

But as horrified as we are by the changes he is planning, and as much as some of us disagree with his economic vision, it's the changes to the climate change agenda that I most fear, because they affect all of us.

I heard it too.  I watched every single debate.  I watched many of his Rallies with mouth ajar.  I watched Hilary Rallies.  I watch in horror.  STILL, I had faith in the American people. 

I too have been following the Global Climate change discussions.  I don't need to listen to these discussions I am SEEING the changes.  More hurricanes and tornados.  More severe storms and flooding.  More earthquakes. The debates are over, all of us are watching it happen, right before our eyes. 

Great posts folks. 

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Re: Election thread #3
#72: November 17, 2016, 12:48:19 PM
Is Trump really a racist??....

Thundarr, this ain't the media talking; I watched him say each one of these things. Don't you go calling anyone condescending and self-righteous, before thinking a bit about how defending this man sounds. Mote in thy brother's eye. Beam in thine own.

Thank you osb, the world watched him saying these things. All the way across the world, where we watched the election process with detached interest, we heard Trump. Not an invention, not a mistake, not words taken out of context.

But as horrified as we are by the changes he is planning, and as much as some of us disagree with his economic vision, it's the changes to the climate change agenda that I most fear, because they affect all of us.

Once again, these discussions about whether or not he is fit to be president are moot because he WILL BE the president regardless.  Now, as most of you that are friends with me on FB saw I called all of my Trump supporting friends to action by making sure that none of the fears our family members and friends have actually come to pass.  We must ensure that no one is marginalized, mistreated, harassed or discriminated against and only in doing so do we show that we really didn't vote for him for the reasons we are accused of.
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Re: Election thread #3
#73: November 17, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
Erm..... (Polite cough).  Why is there an off-topic thread about the US election? 

It seems WAY off topic, and it's deeply saddening to see so many at each others throats over matters that they have almost no chance of influencing.

Fellow world citizens - Americans - please don't disappear up your own backsides* over this situation. The rest of the world does need you. You are the No.1 Superpower and what we wish for now is that you rise above the divisions and find a bigger cause that unites you all. 

As Eckhart Tolle** says, or was it Buddha:  Don't be so wedded to your opinions.  (He might have added: Get to work on the solutions, instead.)

I'm going to just say this and then run out of the playground, as I'm a coward at heart, but surely to goodness, discussing anything from very entrenched, emotionally charged positions gets no one anywhere.  It's how wars start, and God knows we probably have more of those coming.

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*This is an example of me losing control and getting emotional...  My apologies. I leave it in because... well, it shows how we all get too vehement and it is NO help whatsoever.

**Sorry to go on about Eckhart. But when you do some exploring, and find out how bad 'ego' is for world politics and the earth itself, you do see the merits of Eastern philosophy in a VERY complex world.

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Re: Election thread #3
#74: November 17, 2016, 12:53:39 PM
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It seems WAY off topic, and it's deeply saddening to see so many at each others throats over matters that they have almost no chance of influencing.

I find it encouraging that we are communicating with Americans--they obviously need our help.  Also that we are talking about something other than $%%^^#ing mlcers.
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Re: Election thread #3
#75: November 17, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
Lordy!  OK.  I haven't been on here for a while, and clearly the site has moved on.  Well, yes, why not?   :)
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Re: Election thread #3
#76: November 17, 2016, 12:55:24 PM
I agree, every year we seem to be seeing more and more records being set with our weather.

Really, does it matter that the ice caps are still there after 16 years???  Have you seen how much they have melted??  They look nothing like they did 16 years ago.

I think people think Global Warming is only hotter temperatures.  It is Climate Changes that are happening all over the world and sea levels rising.

We really need to wake up and start taking this serious folks.
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Re: Election thread #3
#77: November 17, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
We must ensure that no one is marginalized, mistreated, harassed or discriminated against

Thank you Thundarr. Great positive response, and one we are collectively involved in.

Add to that... make sure Trump doesn't derail climate change, and we're good to go.
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Re: Election thread #3
#78: November 17, 2016, 01:14:52 PM
OK since we have moved on to climate change.

Can I ask what the world is doing about it?

Mermaid - are you making changes to your life to support this?

I bought a Hybrid car - my second one, Not sure whether that makes it more eco friendly or not.
As I have heard that even hybrid cars are not really eco friendly.

My sister has solar panels in one of her homes.
I have also heard some horror stories about solar panels from some of my friends here in my area.

What else can the average person do?
Discuss what other things we can do!
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Re: Election thread #3
#79: November 17, 2016, 01:21:55 PM
Thanks OP and Mermaid! FINALLY! SOLUTIONS WE CAN BUILD ON! #ClimateChange

What  you can do:
First realize there is a problem.

A guide to reducing your greenhouse gas emissions
Drive less. Walk, bus, ride a bike. If you are buying a car, buy a very efficient vehicle.
Don't fly.
Get an energy audit for your home to find weaknesses in your insulation.
Retrofit your home with efficient insulation, doors and windows.
Close curtains at night in winter, upgrade to insulating curtains or shades for your windows.
Plant a deciduous tree to shade west-facing windows in summer.
Install a solar hot-water heater.
Lower your thermostat in winter, raise it in summer.
Use energy efficient lighting, such as compact fluorescent or LED lights.
Install a water-saving showerhead
Clean or change the air-filter of your furnace regularly.
Find out if you can purchase electricity directly from renewable sources and pay a premium.
Use cold (or warm) water to do your laundry instead of hot.
Hang your clothes to dry whenever possible.
Turn off the lights when you leave a room.
Turn off all electronic equipment when not in use. Buy equipment that doesn't use power when it is turned off.
Eat locally produced, and when possible organic, food.
Eat vegetarian meals several times a week.
Plant a vegetable garden. Compost your food scraps for fertilizer.
Recycle!
If you are building a home, build ultra-efficient.
Live in a smaller house, or live with more people.
Install solar panels on your roof
Vote for political parties committed to real change, who have an economic plan for encouraging conservation and renewables.
Consider your impact on the earth in all your decision making.

There are many ways that you can make a difference, but the gist is this: change your consuming habits to use less, consider energy efficiency in all your choices, change your voting priorities, buy organic food , eat less meat, plant a garden, and walk more. If you take the time in your life to do these things, you may even find you have a better quality of life.
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