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#90: February 18, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
Thundarr,


As of TODAY, Trump's approval rating is a low 37%. I didn't vote for Obama either. Please stop with the comparisons.

OP you have your right to your opinion yet I and most of the country chose neither when it came down to Hillary or Trump.

Thundarr, this massive fear you have against Muslims is just way out there because the ones ISIS wants to get the most are other Muslims no matter what FOX news told you.

So unless you have converted to Islam and moved to the Middle East, I don't feel you should have much to fear.
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Re: Election thread #4
#91: February 18, 2017, 09:22:48 AM
Number of radical/ militant Muslims in the world vs liberal narrative:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428146/more-than-few-islamic-extremists

Elegance, saying that the only ones who need fear radicalized Muslims are other Muslims is ridiculous.  I'm not seeing terrorists here and in Europe targeting mosques.  They BURN CHRISTIANS ALIVE.  Nuff said.
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Re: Election thread #4
#92: February 18, 2017, 09:30:57 AM
Thundarr,

That is a Republican rag with drummed up fear mongering. If that is the way you choose to live your life, in fear, that is on you.

Have you noticed most of FOX news anchors have resigned from FOX and their ridiculous lies, fear mongering and discrimination?

Again, I see no need for me to go on, I don't do the arguing about ridiculous false claims.

Best to you and your family. I build one day you choose a life without fear.
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Re: Election thread #4
#93: February 18, 2017, 09:40:17 AM
Yes, I have read those studies in the past. They have nothing to do with you 20% mullah stat whatsoever. Please provide a source for that. Because right now you are clutching at straws to try and defend your baseless stats.

But how do you feel about this:
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The latest polling data show that while a majority of Muslims reject ISIS, extrapolating from the populations of polled countries alone shows that roughly 50 million people express sympathy for a terrorist army that burns prisoners alive, throws gay men from buildings, and beheads political opponents.

That site that you referred us to with the story about the church has some pretty inflammatory and hateful stuff about gays. In fact, the site seems more obsessed with painting gays negatively than Muslims. And I note your avatar here is taken from that site. So you must identify with the thoughts on that site quite closely. So can you explain how you are different from an ISIS supporter in that regard?



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Re: Election thread #4
#94: February 18, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
My avatar is taken from my favorite 70's cartoon.  Unbelievable.

Deny facts all you will.  I present neither opinion nor conjecture but rather actual facts , logic and reason.  I'll continue to advocate for keeping you and your family's safe even while you continue to live in a bubble.  I just hope you don't find yourself in the blast zone of what's to come, as thousands of Americans already have.
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Re: Election thread #4
#95: February 18, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
The name was Hassam al-Banna that started the radical/militant Islamic movement.

It's Hassan al-Banna. Not Hassam. And the movement he started was in response to British colonial rule in Egypt. In other words, occupation. Yes it had a religious component but the motivation was occupation. In fact, there is a professor at the University of Chicago who has studied terrorism for years and the vast majority of terrorist attacks are directly related to occupation. You might want to read this:
http://chicagopolicyreview.org/2015/05/05/myth-busting-robert-pape-on-isis-suicide-terrorism-and-u-s-foreign-policy/

Also, do you realize that Osama bin Laden was a product of the CIA? When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan the US engaged in a proxy war by funding him and his organization to fight the Soviets.  9/11 was carried out by someone on the payroll of the US for many years. It shows that not only does occupation not produce the desired results, but neither does bribing someone. Oh and the Iranian revolution was against a monarch that had been installed by the CIA 25 years previous. Google Khalifa Haftar, as he may lead to the next CIA casualty sometime in the future.

I live in one of those countries that you seem to fear so much. And I am American. I don't need you to advocate for anything because I am safe from the people around me as an American. You have no clue what I have been through in my life or what any of my friends have been through. I have a friend (American) who lost someone close to them in a very high profile terrorist attack directed at Americans, and this person has no fear of all Muslims because of it. In fact, my friend could have very well been a victim of that attack. But perhaps that is because my friend has lived all over the Muslim world over a period of 25 years and knows firsthand what attitudes are towards Americans and more importantly why those attitudes exist. YOU are the one in the bubble.

Most terror attacks in the Muslim world are Muslim on Muslim, and they are often politically motivated. And they can occur on a daily basis and you will never read about it in your news sources. They are not much different from say, the violence you would find going on on Chicago's South Side, which is mostly black on black violence. They claim the lives of targeted individuals and innocent bystanders. But they still claim the lives of a small small number and you just get desensitized to it after a while. You go around, live your life, knowing you could be an innocent victim yourself, but you can't cower in fear all the time.
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Re: Election thread #4
#96: February 18, 2017, 10:58:04 AM
The issue is not about fear and has nothing to do with ALL Muslims, simply being able to pick out who's who and keeping the extremists out.  And Muslim terrorism HERE and in Europe is targeted against US and not other Muslims.

Your bullying tactics, name-calling and accusations are exactly why you were shocked when Trump won. Your friends, family and co-workers did not feel safe stating their true opinions because they didn't want to deal with you.  But speak up they did where and when it counted - at the voting booth.  So feel free to blame Trump's win on the hatred and bigotry of those you wouldn't associate with, when in reality it was your family, friends and co-workers who voted him in.  OP was right.  This country is divided, and you're on the losing side of that division.  Digest that.
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Re: Election thread #4
#97: February 18, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
On please Thundarr. Learn another language, pick up a foreign newspaper, get a passport and do some traveling, befriend a Muslim. Do us all a favor and just get out of your bubble of fear.

We all know who won the popular vote and whose fragile ego is still sore from that knowledge.  :)

We have a racist misogynist narcissist in the White House who nobody respects abroad. I'm stressing this since you always (erroneously) stated that Obama wasn't respected in other countries.

And don't ever tell women to disregard the way said racist misogynist narcissist talked about our gender.
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Re: Election thread #4
#98: February 18, 2017, 11:49:57 AM
I gave up FB over 3 years ago but from what I hear, one of my cousins spends a lot of time praising Trump on FB.

My cousin lives in Mexico. He retired there. Owns a home there. If Mexico were to ever decide to retaliate against the US, and they very well could, he would probably be on a bus of deportees to Mexico's northern border in a heartbeat. He has the money to afford to start over, but....

The mind boggles at how people can vote against their own best interest. Total disconnect.

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Re: Election thread #4
#99: February 18, 2017, 11:57:33 AM
Thundarr,

How can we create, finance and train terrorist organizations and then claim that we fight them. ISIS, Al Qaida, Al-Nusra, these are the organizations that recieve funds from CIA. This is why the relatives of 9/11 are banned to sue the Saudi Goverrnment. It is done not as much as to protect the Saudis, but to protect CIA operations, and national security secrets. Why neither Osama bin Laden, nor Sadam Husein, nor Qadaffi we're brought to justice and tried in the court of law? For the same reason.

What C4 wrote about the origins of terror is 100% correct. We created this mess, we destroyed livelihoods, we inflicted immeasurable human suffering and hundreds of thousands displaced people.

I agree with Evas too. You need to read real books and studies about the origins of terror, travel, see the World, experience Muslim friends and hospitality and warmth of their houses. See how they treat their elders and children. Open up your mind Thundarr. Fear and ignorance is potent, but at times fatal combination.

Could you please, tell us what patriotic deeds this President committed so far? We have missed that.





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