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#50: February 12, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
Anjae is right. My 'vanisher' started as a boomerang for first 4 months or so, then had a vanisher patch where the only way I knew he was alive was his salary turning up in the joint a/c. Back then to a boomerang for another 3 months, then after he announced 'divorce is the only option' was a real vanisher for about 3 months, popped up as a boomerang for a couple of months 'wanting joint counselling', back to vanisher for a couple, then he filed and stayed a vanisher for another 6 months or so. Since July, does vanisher for about 2 months, a couple of weeks of contact, back to vanisher. Watchgate and final stages of divorce/house sale have made him a bit more low contact boomerang. I have no idea what he thinks will happen post-divorce...I suspect I will be a vanisher and he will want to 'talk'  ::)

My reflections on what lies behind the 'vanishing'? I think initially they just want to run away from everything and my H was a depressed 'wallower' who wanted the world to stop, I think. As his affair started, I think the vanishing was more about a pendulum between a) seeing contact as an irritating distraction/wanting to control me and b) being afraid of his own emotions if he saw me. So, mostly it's a combination of fear and control really.

Actually if I think about times when I've wanted/done 'vanisher' too? Always been when I'm either just exhausted by the insanity and see no use in contact, or when I feel so emotionally unsafe that NC is the only way to protect myself from the risk/pain/uncertainty. Perhaps not very different as an LBS?
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#51: February 12, 2018, 01:08:22 AM
When I think about, h has vanished couple times in last 3 yrs. this is the longest at 6 mths which has surprised me. Needing him for help with son in January and no response has finished me. Vanish he wants vanish and no contact he can have. Will still be my fault. I will have made it impossible for him to see his kids. What ever! Perhaps I sound bitter. Need get rid of that pill xx
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Last left 7.03.17.
Ow 16 yrs younger, no children never been married. co worker. EA turned to PA and lives with ow
Divorce bomb drop by him 31/8/17 by solicitor letter after being caught by ow at lunch with me 3 wk earlier. Finances Not yet finalised.
Crazy divorce started by him.
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#52: February 12, 2018, 03:45:47 AM
The only reason i know mine is alive is bc he sends me child support every two weeks and takes my daughter for visitation. If he didn't have to do those two things he would be a true vanisher.

Who cares about the name anyway, the end result is still the same. We don't get to know anything about their life and they prefer to think of us as dead.
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#53: February 12, 2018, 05:04:36 AM
I know this isn’t the right place to ask this and apologise in advance but does anyone know if I have cross petitioned and he has presumably had a copy, does it go straight to court or has it probably gone to court as he has disagreed with my petition? Uk law.
I am not sure as he is silent
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BD 20/10/2014
Left first 12/12/2014
10 come backs and leaves again for same ow
Last left 7.03.17.
Ow 16 yrs younger, no children never been married. co worker. EA turned to PA and lives with ow
Divorce bomb drop by him 31/8/17 by solicitor letter after being caught by ow at lunch with me 3 wk earlier. Finances Not yet finalised.
Crazy divorce started by him.
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#54: February 12, 2018, 05:31:01 AM
Probably best to check on the process with your L? As I recall - if cross-petitioning means you issued a d petition of your own - then your H will have been sent that and has 30 days to acknowledge receipt of it?
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#55: February 12, 2018, 06:57:55 AM
I think I am going to have to become a vanisher to my "vanisher."

P.S. pretty much no one, if anyone, on these Vanishers threads has a real vanisher, myself included. A real vanisher does not contact now and then. The LBS had no idea where the MLCer lives, what he/she does, we don't know their OW and they do not keep social media. At least none that are aware of or can see. What we have is boomerangs or low contact MLCers.
Give me a couple more weeks. The only thing I have contact on is the divorce and that is minimal.

I can't even have contact on the divorce anymore, as my H changed his phone number.  The only way I could contact him now about anything would be via snail mail.  I know where he works, but I'm only 90% sure I have the correct home address. 

We don't have kids and no divorce has been filed, but he's changed his phone number and email, which makes the divorce he wants much more difficult to obtain.

I had a clinger who moved 1100 miles away to live with OW and texted me the entire 22-hour drive the day he moved.  I stopped responding to his "buddy" texts and for the next year mostly only contacted about legal/financial issues.

A couple of times I did what Nah suggested, a simple "how are you?" and always got nice responses.  He'd reply and then a few days later even instigate a text, a picture of my dog or something.

Last May 2017, he even for the first time opened up about some info on his new life, telling me about working at a golf course on the weekends and he sent me a link to an article about a high school girl he works with at the course who used golf to get through her cancer diagnosis.  He thought she was so brave for what she went through and called her "really something else."

Oddly enough, literally a month after that text conversation, I was diagnosed with breast cancer.  And then my off and on-er pretty much became a vanisher.  Coincidence?  I think not.

I wonder if he thinks I'm "really something else"?  Doubtful. 

I was diagnosed exactly one year after he started his new life in his new city.  He found out through my MIL, who heard the news at the hair salon (we go to the same salon...or we used to.  I'm bald at the moment).

I got a text from him when he heard.  It was robotic and I couldn't even respond to it.  Maybe I should have, but I had just been told I had advanced cancer and it was an aggressive subtype that is harder to treat.  I was reeling from the news and reading his text that sounded as if it was written to a stranger made me so sad. 

I didn't text him back, but I did send an email asking him to please resume making deposits (which he hadn't made since the previous November) as I was going to be in treatment for a long while and needed to budget.

He wrote back and basically told me he was not going to resume deposits until we had a signed agreement (which we already have, it just was never filed because I moved out of state and had to meet the residency requirement.  Then when I was diagnosed I moved home).  He said he was no longer able to correspond by email because his laptop was broken and email wasn't working on his phone.  So he cut off that avenue of communication right away.

I got a text from him a month later on my birthday wishing me happy birthday from the dog (not from him).  I replied the next day and just said "Thank you."  Then nothing.  Just last week I found at that at some point in the last 6 months, he got a new phone number.  So even if I had texted him just to check in over the past 6 months that we've been nc, he wouldn't have gotten it. 

I don't know why they vanish.  I think it's different depending on the MLCer.  Some are cowards who think, similar to toddlers, that if they don't have to see the person/people they hurt, they can successfully outrun their guilt over it.

Some are so angry and so convinced of their irrational narrative that the LBS is 100% to blame, and they may stay away until something happens to make them realize their new narrative is in fact irrational and the LBS isn't to blame for their choices.

Some are still so foolishly infatuated with the OP that they allow the OP to control everything, and that includes their contact with the LBS and even their kids.

There's probably lots of other reasons they vanish as well.

I can't ignore that mine vanished when I got cancer.  I can't decide if he just doesn't care or if he's such a delusional coward that he thinks if he ignores it all, it isn't really happening. 

My diagnosis was pretty bad and I have been in treatment with chemo and now radiation/chemo for almost 8 months, with at least another 8 months ahead of me (oral chemo, etc). 

During the time I have been dealing with chemo and surgery and feeling like hell all the time, OW decided to change her FB profile picture to a picture of her and H looking like a perfect happy couple.  I don't know if she even knows I have cancer or that we are in fact still married.

I have heard from my MIL every few weeks since the day she heard I was sick, and last week was the first time I mentioned H to her, because I had to ask her if he changed his phone number.

The mere mention of H changed the dynamic of our communication.  She got very defensive and was evasive when answering my question.  I know she wasn't aware that he didn't give me his new contact info, but she still basically covered for him and wouldn't get involved.  It's clear that she is only willing to have contact with me if we can pretend H doesn't exist. 

I personally think in my case, my H has become more of a vanisher the more he finds that the grass really is greener and his new life suits him.  He lives in a house of cards, because I know he's deep in debt and not paying his bills and has several collections accounts now.  So clearly he's not thinking about anything long term.  But the more he settles in and succeeds more at his job and becomes more a part of his new community, the more guilty he feels, so the more he vanishes and pretends I never even existed. 

The bottom line is he's vanished.  I got cancer and he got a new phone number.  He lives an entirely new life and is getting deeper and deeper into it, yet has now made it so much harder to get a divorce. 

It's insanity. 

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#56: February 12, 2018, 07:36:10 AM
All I got from solicitor was now have court date and h may change his position and will let me know if he does. Not much info there.

H has changed mobile no as well and text son other week to inform him that if wants contact will be by email. D didn’t get text so she felt that was an up yours to her. What 12 and 14 yr old will email? Wtf moment!

I just wondered if he has prob ignored or replied he does not agree. I suppose a stupid question as who knows? Including me! Who knows!
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Ow 16 yrs younger, no children never been married. co worker. EA turned to PA and lives with ow
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#57: February 12, 2018, 07:42:21 AM
Nas, I have a friend who has gone through breast cancer and had both breasts removed. Once she had the all clear although never a complete all clear as regular checkups, her husband decided cancer had changed her and started to ignore her then ea with ow.
She did say her outlook on life had changed and she needed to live but also she said she needed love  like the earth needs sun and that he had stopped his love and so she asked him to leave. She even one eve lit candles and put on her most sexy underwear as she had new breasts. He got home, got into bed and looked at her, tapped her arm and said night old gal and turned over and went to sleep!
She felt her breast cancer affected him more than it did her. He was not needed as she had nurses and doctors etc .
They have very little contact. Xx
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Divorced 3/dec/2019
Together 30yrs
BD 20/10/2014
Left first 12/12/2014
10 come backs and leaves again for same ow
Last left 7.03.17.
Ow 16 yrs younger, no children never been married. co worker. EA turned to PA and lives with ow
Divorce bomb drop by him 31/8/17 by solicitor letter after being caught by ow at lunch with me 3 wk earlier. Finances Not yet finalised.
Crazy divorce started by him.
Clinging boomerang for 3 yrs now Vanisher but  twice a yr pops his head up. ow has balls in a vice!

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#58: February 12, 2018, 08:17:45 AM
Yes, RP, it's heartbreaking.  BD was 3 years ago and I haven't seen him in almost 2 years.  He stopped loving me long before I got cancer but I didn't think he'd stop caring completely.  But he has.  I can only imagine he views my now having cancer as making me somehow more "defective." Or needy, or a burden. 

To find out I have cancer and just walk away completely...I can't believe I was married to someone that selfish and/or cowardly. 
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#59: February 12, 2018, 09:54:41 AM
Complete strangers nas. Xx
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BD 20/10/2014
Left first 12/12/2014
10 come backs and leaves again for same ow
Last left 7.03.17.
Ow 16 yrs younger, no children never been married. co worker. EA turned to PA and lives with ow
Divorce bomb drop by him 31/8/17 by solicitor letter after being caught by ow at lunch with me 3 wk earlier. Finances Not yet finalised.
Crazy divorce started by him.
Clinging boomerang for 3 yrs now Vanisher but  twice a yr pops his head up. ow has balls in a vice!

 

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