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Off-Topic Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#140: May 16, 2011, 10:56:31 AM
You can still ask about what sort of attitude to take to him (mentally), or how you can overcome your pain, or how to make the best of the current situation.

It depends what you want to know.

The way to read it is to see what type of truths it stimulates inside you. It is not meant to give you hope or take it away, or to be an oracle for the future, but to reflect on your situation.

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#141: July 09, 2012, 05:24:52 PM
Thanks for bumping this, Limitless. I’m in a mood for a little lightness in this MLC thing so I  tried the I-Ching and asked the question that Mermaid has asked on her first post:

“How can I deal with my current situation with H”.

I got Hexagram 5, Waiting

Key Questions: How can you wait patiently and with commitment? ; While you wait, how can you best make yourself ready?

Oracle:
‘Waiting, with truth and confidence.
Shining out, creating success: constancy brings good fortune.
Fruitful to cross the great river.’
You wait for what you need, like a farmer waiting for the weather to change. This is not a passive state; you can dance for rain, influence events by bringing yourself into harmony with the outcome you need. But you cannot force this, you can only attend to it. You will need patience: it may all take much longer than you had imagined. When you are fully present in waiting, your intense attention shines out like a beacon, beginning a creative engagement with the world – not by working on anything, but by waiting on it and holding your faith.
And in crossing the river, committing yourself to go as far as you can towards what you’re waiting for, you begin the transition into the world where it is real.
Image
‘The clouds are above heaven: Waiting.
 
 Sequence
Waiting follows from Hexagram 4, Not Knowing:
‘Young things cannot do without nourishment, and so Waiting follows. Waiting means the way of eating and drinking.’
Pair
Waiting forms a pair with Hexagram 6, Arguing:
‘Waiting means no progress, Arguing means no connection.’
Changing Lines
Line 1
‘Waiting at the outskirts altar,
Fruitful to use perseverance – no mistake.’
Line 2
‘Waiting on the sands, there are small words.
in the end, good fortune.’
Line 3
‘Waiting in the bog invites the arrival of robbers.’
Line 4
‘Waiting in blood.
Come out of the pit.’
Line 5
‘Waiting with food and drink.
Constancy, good fortune.’
Line 6
‘Entering into the pit.
There are uninvited guests – three people come.
Honour them: in the end, good fortune.’

The related Hexagram 19, Nearing

Key Questions: How does this want to grow? ; How can you take responsibility for its development? ; What would your greater self do?

Oracle:
‘Nearing.
Creating success from the source, constancy bears fruit.
Reaching an end in the eighth month means a pitfall.’
‘Nearing’ means drawing closer and gazing down over what you approach. There are two strands of meaning here: the approach of a greater spirit or presence in an ongoing process of growth, and your approach as the one who pays attention and takes responsibility. Like the creative drive of Hexagram 1, this great, growing energy comes from the source, asks for your full participation, and seeks to reach fruition and be realized. But its surging growth can be disastrously interrupted by ‘reaching an end in the eighth month’.
The eighth month is the month of harvest. If this comes round too soon for what Nears to reach full growth – if the situation demands that you produce a tangible result prematurely – then this means misfortune. Or if you focus exclusively on results instead of watching patiently over developments – if your expectations are out of touch with the pace of growth – then there is misfortune.
Having something to show for a process of growth doesn’t mean you’ve arrived at its outcome: harvest is not the end. As each harvest is gathered in and stored, the seasonal cycle of growth continues; you need to stay present to its ongoing changes, wherever they might lead.

Image
‘Above the lake is earth: Nearing.
A noble one teaches and reflects untiringly,
Accepts and protects the people without limit.’
Sequence
Nearing follows from Hexagram 18, Corruption:
‘With work to do, greatness becomes possible, and so Nearing follows. Nearing means greatness.’
Pair
Nearing forms a pair with Hexagram 20, Seeing:
‘What is right for Nearing and Seeing: someone reaches out, someone seeks.’
Changing Lines
Line 1
‘Influence nearing.
Constancy, good fortune.’
Line 2
‘Influence nearing, good fortune.
Nothing that does not bear fruit.’
Line 3
‘Sweetness nearing,
No direction bears fruit.
Already grieving it, no mistake.’
Line 4
‘An end nearing,
No mistake.’
Line 5
‘Realization nearing.
Right for a great leader.
Good fortune.’
Line 6
‘Great-hearted nearing
Good fortune, no mistake.’

Think the I-Ching just gave me a good description of what a LBS requires… Waiting, Patiente, Constancy… Well… I’ll wait then…  ::) ::) ::)
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