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#120: September 29, 2010, 10:33:05 AM
My question this evening was
Can I influence the relationship between husband and ow.

The reading said

I Ching Hexagram: 49
Name: Ko.

Keyphrase: Revolution.

Formed By The Trigrams: Lake over Fire.

 

General: Only when justified by necessity and clear intent should radical change be undertaken.

Love: Your relationship may be in need of a radical change, but first you should plan for all eventualities.

Business: The timing for radical change should be chosen wisely to maximize results.

Personal: Meditation is the key to taking advantage of the opportunity for radical self-transformation.

 

Overview: Ko appears at a time of potential radical transformation. Although fast, decisive, action is often the best way this is not necessarily so when Ko appears. Timing is crucial. Any action needs to be thoroughly thought out and based on very solid foundations. Action should only be taken if absolutely necessary. Resist the temptation to act impetuously as that will undermine your efforts and quite possibly have a negative affect

Um interesting at the moment.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#121: September 30, 2010, 05:28:58 AM
Just asked the question 'Will my husband see an awakening and realise the error of his ways?'

Answer was 30- Li/Igniting

Fire sparks more flames. The Superior person holds an inner fire that ignites passion in every heart it touches, until all the world is enlightened and aflame. With so searing a flame, success will not be denied you. Take care to be as peaceful and nurturing as the cow in the meadow; you are strong enough to be gentle.

Analysis - A Promethean flame is delivering light and heat to the situation at hand. This radiance will cause such an alchemical  transformation of circumstances that the changes will seem magical, miraculous. Yet they are only shifts of perspective and attitude that bring clarity. The passions kindled by this fire must be harnessed and used judicially, or they threaten to consume your hopes and dreams.

Interesting. Time will tell.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#122: October 02, 2010, 02:55:15 PM
Will H ever come back to me, and what do I have to do?
58 - Fifty-Eight
Tui / Empowering
The joyous Lake spans on and on to the horizon:
The Superior Person renews and expands his Spirit through heart-to-heart exchanges with others.

Success if you stay on course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:

This is the sign of true companionship.
The principals in this situation exchange energy, ideas and feelings, constantly invigorating and encouraging each other to new heights of Spiritual achievement and Self-discovery.
This exchange is not for the glory of the Team, but for furthering the process of each individual's 'Te', or pure potentiality.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#123: October 02, 2010, 03:09:17 PM
As I often do I asked simply "How should I act towards my H today?"

The cast hexagram--if I recall correctly refers to the present--was number 15

Success if you carry things through.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

The Cosmos is moving toward equilibrium.
Extremes are being tempered, excess is beginning to shift toward the empty.
You can use these moderating influences to strike a balance in the world around you.
Remember, though, that this Leveling will not come about through an arrogant confiscation of excess, but through subtler persuasions.
Modesty and moderation are the keys.

The transformed hexagram--the future?? is number 46


Supreme Success.
Have no doubts.
Seek guidance from someone you respect.
A constant move toward greater clarity will bring reward.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

You are progressing, rising inch-by-inch toward certain success.
What makes this assured is your refusal to tilt headlong toward your goal, slamming into obstacles and going mad with frustration.
You have a clear map before you of the steps necessary to reach your objective.
With faithful patience and a careful conservation of personal energy and resources, you will run this long, slow distance.


Both reminders to be patient and adaptable.   Now I wonder who is the guide?  Someone here, my therapist, a friend, a book, prayer, all of the above?

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#124: October 05, 2010, 02:10:05 PM
"What should my attitude be this week?"

Cast Hexagram:
47 - Forty-Seven
K'un / Exhaustion

A Dead Sea, its Waters spent eons ago, more deadly than the desert surrounding it:
The Superior Person will stake his life and fortune on what he deeply believes.

Triumph belongs to those who endure.
Trial and tribulation can hone exceptional character to a razor edge that slices deftly through every challenge.
Action prevails where words will fail.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is the realm of the Shaman.
You have exhausted every alternative, spent yourself completely, taxed body and mind beyond your former limits.
Survival and salvation lie beyond your reach now.
Only transcendence to a new existence -- a higher plane of being -- will see you through.
The Old You is just a dry husk.
You can't return to it.
Metamorphosis is the only grace offered.
You can only return to your homeland as a New You.

... OK, then!
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#125: October 07, 2010, 04:52:21 AM
I decided to try this again this morning:

I asked:  How should I approach the current situation with H? 

Cast Hexagram:

19 - Nineteen
Lin / Noble Calling

The rich, loamy Earth on the banks of the Marsh provides fertile soil for exceptional progress.
The Superior Person is inexhaustible in his willingness to teach, and without limit in his tolerance and support of others.

Supreme Success if you keep to your course.
But be aware that your time is limited; your power will wane, as Summer changes to Fall.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

You are in a position to help another.
This is a temporary situation, because your power is cyclical, seasonal.
Knowing this, you must perform your good deed without hope of reward.
You are not furthering your own process, but another's.
Though you may cherish this other, you will never possess.
Touch without grasping.
Take comfort in becoming a fond memory.
Nurture, then let go.

Changing Lines:

There are Three Changing Lines.
The Middle Line applies.

Hexagram Nineteen/Line Four:

Successful or not, a sincere approach is the only course.
 
Transformed Hexagram:

64 - Sixty-Four
Wei Chi / The End In Sight

Fire ascends above the Water:
The Superior Person examines the nature of things and keeps each in its proper place.

Too anxious the young fox gets his tail wet, just as he completes his crossing.
To attain success, be like the man and not like the fox.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

Resist the rush to completion.
Anticipation of fulfillment may callous you before you have fully absorbed the lessons of the journey.
The endpoint of this Quest will only prove to be the threshold for another.
You are short steps from Mastery on this plane, yet you stride toward Ignorance of the challenges lying beyond.
Savor this accomplishment.
Fully Become.
Take full possession of your world before embarking to discover the next one.
That voyage begins soon enough, and you will reminisce about this one.
These are the Good Old Days.


Interesting.....  I had a dream recently as well, which was set in the evening, which I understand means that something is drawing to a close.  Maybe I'm finally learning to let go? 
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#126: October 12, 2010, 06:50:13 AM
My question today was 'Will my husband come back to me?'

Cast hexagram - 45
Ts'ui/Gathering

The lake rises by welcoming and receiving Earths waters.
The King approaches his temple.
It is wise to seek audience with him there.

Success follows this course. Making an offering will seal good fortune. A goal will be realised now.

Situation Analysis

This is an important Convergence, and you must be part of it. Look for the centre of this convergence.
Like waters running to the sea, like an astronomical convergence of planets revolving around the sun, you should let the gravity of this centre draw you near. Others are also drawn to this centre, and among them you will find shared bonds and kindred spirits. This tribal convergence will give clarity of purpose. You will no longer be alone.

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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#127: October 13, 2010, 08:17:43 AM
Question: what is status of my husband in the tunnel?

Cast Hexagram: 21 biting through
The Merciless searing judgement of
Lightning fulfills the warning prophecies
Of distant thunder.
Sage rulers preserved justice by clearly defining the laws
And by delivering the penalties decreed.
Though unpleasant it is best to let justice have it's due.

Situation analysis:
A terrible reckoning is due. A wrong will be righted and even if it is you who were wronged, you will tremble at the power of Justice untempered by Mercy.
Pray for your oppressor that his punishment will fit his crime.

Two changing lines:
Biting into dried meat, and striking the golden arrowhead.
Keeping to this perilous  course will bring  unexpected reward.

Transformed hex: worrying the tiger (ten)
You tread upon the tail of the tiger.
Not perceiving you as a threat, the startled tiger does not bite. Success.

You have reached a perilous part of the journey.
This is a real gamble, not a Manuever or a calculated risk.
The outcome is uncertain . If it goes as you hope, you will gain.
If it goes against you, it will cause serious injury, at least to your plans.

The best tack is extreme caution and a healthy respect for the danger involved.

That's interesting. H seems to be running low on energy. Sleeping a lot.
Wait and see.


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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#128: October 13, 2010, 02:53:31 PM
"How should I proceed for the rest of the week?"

Cast Hexagram:
15 - Fifteen
Ch'ien / Modesty

The Mountain does not overshadow the Plain surrounding it:
Such modest consideration in a Superior Person creates a channel through which excess flows to the needy.

Success if you carry things through.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The Cosmos is moving toward equilibrium.
Extremes are being tempered, excess is beginning to shift toward the empty.
You can use these moderating influences to strike a balance in the world around you.
Remember, though, that this Leveling will not come about through an arrogant confiscation of excess, but through subtler persuasions.
Modesty and moderation are the keys.

Changing Lines:
There are Two Changing Lines.
The Upper Line applies.

Hexagram Fifteen/Line Six:

Modesty is the best face when correcting the errors of your own allies.

Transformed Hexagram:
56 - Fifty-Six
Lu / The Wanderer

Fire on the Mountain, catastrophic to man, a passing annoyance to the Mountain:
The Superior Person waits for wisdom and clarity before exacting Justice, then lets no protest sway him.

Find satisfaction in small gains.
To move constantly forward is good fortune to a Wanderer.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are a stranger to this situation.
It is your attraction to the exotic that has led you here, but you will move on to a new vista when this one has lost its mystique.
Because much of this environment is foreign to you, you must exercise only the best judgement.
You don't know the custom here, and it's too easy to cross a line you don't know is there.
Because you are the foreigner in this setting, you have no history to acquit you.
Watch, listen, study, contemplate, then step lightly but decisively on.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#129: October 16, 2010, 06:27:27 AM
What attitude should I take to myself and H now?
22 - Twenty-Two Pi / Grace
 Fire illuminates the base of the Mountain: The Superior Person realizes he has not the wisdom to move the course of the world, except by attending to each day's affairs as they come.
Success in small matters. This is a good time to begin something.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
 The emphasis now is on form, not function -- on the sizzle and not the steak. The environment around you is not one of depth, and you are appreciated now for your image, not your essence. You perfectly fill a role, and no one is seeing the genuine you. Still, you are being listened to and watched. Use this influence to further your goals as much as possible. Even if you don't feel understood, you can perhaps connect with a few isolated hearts. Relax and enjoy the attention.
There is One Changing Line.
Hexagram Twenty-Two/Line One: Honouring his feet, he leaves his carriage to walk.
Overview: Pi is about observing natural grace and allowing that observation to inspire you to emulate it in life. Pi also is a warning not to be taken in by superficial beauty or appearance. Instead, make sure that what lies underneath the surface is more enduring. To neglect to do so may well lead to errors of judgment. Remember, the more enduring beauty is seen with the heart. Not with the eye.

52 - Fifty-Two Kên / The Mountain
 Above this Mountain's summit another more majestic rises: The Superior Person is mindful to keep his thoughts in the here and now.
Stilling the sensations of the Ego, he roams his courtyard without moving a muscle, unencumbered by the fears and desires of his fellows. This is no mistake.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
 There is a higher vantage point available to you, but it is obscured by the visible peak of personal ambition. To climb to this higher plane, you must shake off the desires and fears of the conscious, visible world around you. To make this journey you must quiet the Ego, empty your mind of past and future, and dwell totally in the moment at hand. Thorough mindfulness of what is before you is the only tranquillity. Be. Here. Now.
Love: In order to see things clearly you must let go of any preconceptions. Overview: Ken reminds you that if your mind is full of clutter it will not be able to hold new thoughts and ideas. Ken appears when you have a need to take a break and withdraw from the world for a moment in order to clear out the old in your mind to make way for the new. Meditation is the key to this process. It is not simply a time for rest. It is not an easy task to free your mind from daily worries, but it is necessary to do so, so that you can see and think more objectively than before. Old thoughts hinder your actions, compelling you to make the same mistakes. Clear them out - don't let them trap you.

I've had this before and I'm beginning to understand what this means. I have to let go of the idea that I can affect what H sees, understands and does. I have to let go of the idea that he will come back and rescue me from this mire. I have to stop feeling resentment and anger. These things trap me in the past.
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