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#110: September 21, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
"What attitude should I adopt at this stage of my journey?"

Cast Hexagram:
59 - Fifty-Nine
Huan / Dissolution

Wind carries the Mists aloft:
Sage rulers dedicated their lives to serving a Higher Power and built temples that still endure.

The King approaches his temple.
Success if you stay on course.
You may cross to the far shore.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Walls meant to protect have instead separated and isolated.
Your defenses have kept you apart from those whom you most need to touch.
Whatever the reason for discord between you, it is time to lay down your arms.
Dispel the inflexible demands and fears of the Mind so that you may reunite in the Heart.
If you have begrudged, forgive.
If you have torn down, repair.
If you have injured, heal.
If you have judged, pardon.
If you have grasped, let go.

Changing Lines:
There are Two Changing Lines.
The Upper Line applies.

Hexagram Fifty-Nine/Line Four:
He scatters his group far and wide.
Those who return will be of firmer resolve and leaner, stronger fibre.
An ingenious move.

Transformed Hexagram:
10 - Ten
Lü / Worrying the Tiger

Heaven shines down on the Marsh which reflects it back imperfectly:
Though the Superior Man carefully discriminates between high and low, and acts in accord with the flow of the Tao, there are still situations where a risk must be taken.

You tread upon the tail of the tiger.
Not perceiving you as a threat, the startled tiger does not bite.
Success.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You have reached a perilous point in your journey.
This is a real gamble -- not a maneuver, not a calculated risk.
The outcome is uncertain.
If it goes as you hope, you will gain -- but if it turns against you it will cause serious injury, at least to your plans.
The best tack is extreme caution and a healthy respect for the danger involved.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#111: September 22, 2010, 09:08:17 PM
"How should I behave in the weeks to come?"

Cast Hexagram:
63 - Sixty-Three
Chi Chi / Aftermath

Boiling Water over open Flame, one might extinguish The other:
The Superior Person takes a 360 degree view of the situation and prepares for any contingency.

Success in small matters if you stay on course.
Early good fortune can end in disorder.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Victory at the expense of another is a merciless taskmaster.
The precarious balance here is reflected in the lines of the hexagram: each of the yin lines rests upon a strong yang line -- a seemingly perfect arrangement.
But the scales will be tipped with the change of any one line.
And there WILL be change.
Tireless vigilance and an answer to every challenge -- that is the uneasy Seat of Power occupied by the conqueror.

Changing Lines:
There is One Changing Line.

Hexagram Sixty-Three/Line Four:

The finest clothes can be shredded to rags.
Keep a sharp eye on the discontent.

Transformed Hexagram:
49 - Forty-Nine
Ko / Revolution

Fire ignites within the Lake, defying conditions that would deny it birth or survival:
The Superior Person reads the Signs of the Times and makes the Season apparent to all.

The support you need will come only after the deed is done.
Renewed forces, however, will provide fresh energy for exceptional progress.
Persevere.
All differences vanish.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
A revolutionary Change must be made forcibly.
There is no negotiating with the Established Order.
Perfect timing is essential.
Let the abuse of power become apparent and oppressive to those around you before making your move.
Lay the groundwork, sow the seeds for Revolution without tipping your hand prematurely.
You will need a strong foundation, because you will have to bring about this necessary change alone.
You cannot count on popular support, so you must wait until there is massive dissent.
Then the avenue for your assault will be cleared.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#112: September 23, 2010, 06:32:27 AM
I've had three iChing readings in the past two days that seem to make no sense in my sitch. Given that H is out of the house, still in replay, these are wierd
1. What attitude would be best to take to H now? 11 Peace. New awakenings, end to animosities, new strength, peace of mind. Changing line 1: action's for other's welfare meet with good fortune. Changing to 7 Collective force; be generous and accomodating in your personal relationships, hold together with your loved ones and overcome difficiculties together.
I sort of understand this as having peace of mind, but part 2?
Today I asked: How can I get H to see how much he is damaging his family, and to return to us? 35 Aspiration. Do not despise easy progress with your love life. Cherish it instead. Changing line 6; Though politically perilous, it is wiser to put infidels within your own city walls to the sword, rather than lead a Crusade to convert faraway lands. (discipline yourself). Changes to 16, Enthusiasm. Thunder comes resounding out of the Earth: Similar thunder roars up from the masses when the Superior Person strikes a chord in their hearts.  Whip up enthusiasm, rally your forces, and move boldly forward.

These sound like everything should be moving forward, but it is not.

I asked Can I influence H's attitude to OW? and I got 18: Repairing the damage (caused by neglect/ decay) Any differences of opinion with your partner should be resolved at this time. Changing line 4: Tolerating the malpractices of the father will lead the son to ruin. (So I shouldn't put up with H's reaply behaviour?) Leading to 34 Awesome power.  Thunder fills the Heavens with its awful roar, not out of pride, but with integrity; if it did less, it would not be Thunder: Because of his Great Power, the Superior Person takes pains not to overstep his position, so that he will not seem intimidating or threatening to the Established Order.  Opportunity will arise along this course.

These are all very auspicious hexagrams, but I can't see what relevance they have to me. I'm stuck. Any ideas?
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#113: September 23, 2010, 08:51:37 AM
Those are fairly short interpretations of the hexagrams compared to what I've been seeing. Where did you get those from?

EDIT: Wow, I'm sorry -- I was responding to Mermaid and got her situation confused with Voyager's update!

I'll come back to this when I am actually able to pay attention to what I'm writing. :(
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#114: September 23, 2010, 09:01:29 AM
They are summaries, not the whole thing. I get summaries online and also in an iChing workbook I have.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#115: September 23, 2010, 12:54:17 PM
I went to see my acupuncturist today and we talked about the iChing (pronounced ee-shing) a little bit.  He said that it is very complex and detailed; there are a lot of layers in it that most people have no idea how to interpret. 

I also found out that my constitution is wood-based; strong enough to push through the earth, but also flexible.  I totally see that in myself. 

I went to see him because my hair has been falling out due to the weight loss and stress; hair loss, in Chinese medicine, is connected to the blood; he gave me some herbs to take; we shall see what happens.  He has given me wonderful herbs in the past for shock (right after BD) that worked wonderfully!
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#116: September 23, 2010, 08:50:02 PM
"What attitude should I adopt in dealing with my own situation for the rest of the month?"

Cast Hexagram:
54 - Fifty-Four
Kuei Mei / A Loveless Marriage [Damn!]

The Thunderstorm inseminates the swelling Lake, then moves on where the Lake cannot follow:
The Superior Person views passing trials in the light of Eternal Truths.
Any action will prove unfortunate.
Nothing furthers.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is at best a Marriage of Convenience.
You have found yourself in desperate straits, a position of weakness, and you are tempted to pay dearly for a remedy.
A drowning man isn't picky about who throws him a rope.
The rescue offered to you now is undesirable.
It may pull you out of this sticky situation, but it will cause even greater predicaments down the road.
Don't obligate yourself in this way.
You are selling your future for a quick fix today.

No changing lines, so no transformed hexagram.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#117: September 28, 2010, 07:58:20 AM
"How should I approach this week?"

Cast Hexagram:
60 - Sixty
Chieh / Limitations

Waters difficult to keep within the Lake's banks:
The Superior Person examines the nature of virtue and makes himself a standard that can be followed.

Self-discipline brings success; but restraints too binding bring self-defeat.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Cultivating the proper disciplines and the proper degree of discipline are the concerns of this hexagram.
By limiting options, you may give more attention to priorities.
One who is all over the map is no less lost than one without a map.
Avoid asceticism, however.
Deprivation is not wise discipline.
The key here is regulation, not restriction.

Changing Lines:
There is One Changing Line.

Hexagram Sixty/Line Two:
Pacing his own garden and courtyard, he refuses to pass out the gate.
Misfortune.

Transformed Hexagram:
3 - Three
Chun / Difficulty at the Beginning

Thunder from the Deep:
The Superior Person carefully weaves order out of confusion.

Supreme Success if you keep to your course.
Carefully consider the first move.
Seek help.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:
New ventures always pack along their inherent chaos.
Though this is an annoyance at best, and can even imperil or downright doom an endeavor, it is also the friction needed to polish your project to jewel brilliance.
Learn from these early obstacles.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#118: September 29, 2010, 02:46:49 AM
I thought what I got this morning was very appropriate:  I asked how I should deal with H's current cycle: 

Cast Hexagram:

60 - Sixty
Chieh / Limitations

Waters difficult to keep within the Lake's banks:
The Superior Person examines the nature of virtue and makes himself a standard that can be followed.

Self-discipline brings success; but restraints too binding bring self-defeat.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

Cultivating the proper disciplines and the proper degree of discipline are the concerns of this hexagram.
By limiting options, you may give more attention to priorities.
One who is all over the map is no less lost than one without a map.
Avoid asceticism, however.
Deprivation is not wise discipline.
The key here is regulation, not restriction.


Changing Lines:

There are Two Changing Lines.
An Old Yin for Line 3
An Old Yang for Line 5
The Old Yin prevails.

Hexagram Sixty/Line Three:

He without self-restraint today forges the shackles that hobble him tomorrow.


Transformed Hexagram:

11 - Eleven
T'ai / Peace

Heaven and Earth embrace, giving birth to Peace.
The Superior Person serves as midwife, presenting the newborn gift to the people.

The small depart; the great approach.
Success.
Good fortune.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

It doesn't get any better than this.
Everything is in harmony, all obstacles are cleared from your Path, anything you could ask for is right at hand.
This is the Elysian Fields, the Garden of Eden.
The only thing wrong with Peace is that it, too, must change.
Whether you are in this state of harmony now or it is predicted for your future, recognize it as your greatest opportunity to build your resources against less harmonious times.
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Re: The I Ching: Ancient Chinese Oracle
#119: September 29, 2010, 09:30:20 AM
You can tell I've been doing this a lot today...

This was good -- and very appropriate, I thought:

To the question:  how should I treat myself over the coming period?

Cast Hexagram:

34 - Thirty-Four
Ta Chuang / Awesome Power

Thunder fills the Heavens with its awful roar, not out of pride, but with integrity; if it did less, it would not be Thunder:
Because of his Great Power, the Superior Person takes pains not to overstep his position, so that he will not seem intimidating or threatening to the Established Order.

Opportunity will arise along this course.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

The Awesome Power available in this hexagram stems from what the Taoists call your Te, a term not perfectly translated into English.
Roughly, it is your Integrity -- not in the Western sense of honor -- but more in the psychological definition of a full integration of Who You Are.
This Awesome Power is achieved only by fully embracing both the good and the bad, the strong and the weak, the masculine and the feminine -- all polarities within you.
Such self-knowledge spawns a Mastery tempered with the humility necessary to rein in and harness this Awesome Power.


Changing Lines:

There are Two Changing Lines.
An Old Yang for Line 4
An Old Yin for Line 6
The Old Yin prevails.

Hexagram Thirty-Four/Line Six:

If the ram butts into the hedge, the entangling thorns will prevent both advance and retreat.
It is best to recognize this danger and avoid it.

Transformed Hexagram:

26 - Twenty-Six
Ta Ch'u / Recharging Power

Heaven's motherlode waits within the Mountain:
The Superior Person mines deep into history's wealth of wisdom and deeds, charging his character with timeless strength.

Persevere.
Drawing sustenance from these sources creates good fortune.
Then you may cross to the far shore.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

There are important precedents in this situation.
Others have trodden this Path before you, overcoming the same obstacles facing you now, and making crucial decisions at the same crossroads.
Study their journals, watch for their trail markings.
Gain inspiration and wisdom from the heroes and learn from the mistakes of those who chose a sidepath.
All were Seekers, explorers whose daring mapped a course you can follow.
The words and deeds of the finest can imbue you with the courage necessary to face what lies before you.
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