[Thundarr]

I detested Obama for shining the rainbow lights on the national monuments.  It was a middle finger to the Christian community and showed he was the special interest president.  And didn't somebody say that Trump is supposed to be President of all the people?  Is that a new rule or was Obama just exempt?

I do thank Obama for being such a dismal failure because if he hadn't been then Hillary would be President.  And don't mention anything about approval ratings.  I could care less about popularity polls and I doubt Trump does either.

[RainbowGal]

There is so much hypocrisy in this Republican position towards the same-sex marriage, women's rights, family-friendly policies, it is not even funny.

Somehow they all are for small Government when it comes to their taxes. But they do not mind telling people who to love, who to sleep with, when and how many children to have, how women should treat her own body. Not to mention spending trillions on criminal and immoral wars, eavesdropping on out conversations, etc.
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 Sigh....so,so very true Karmirtsaghik.

Rainbowgal, I copied/pasted that video to demonstrate the chaos in Sweden.

 I wasn't even referring to that one.The rest of the links you posted are full of fear-mongering propaganda

 

I DO believe in religious freedom and the rights of those who are opposed to promoting or participating in gay wedding ceremonies and this has nothing to do with being anti-gay.

 Hiding behind "religious freedom",while committing bigotry,doesn't magically make you a non-anti-gay person.It just makes you a coward for hiding behind your "religious freedom " in order to discriminate and deny equal rights to us.

Do we forget the Pulse nightclub and how Trump's support with gays grew exponentially after that as they knew he was dedicated to protecting them?

Trump has very little support amongst the majority of the LBGQT community.

Do we forget that Trump is the FIRST president ever to be in favor of gay marriage when entering office? 

 My concern is more about Bannon and his influence on Trump.He is a well known for his homophobia.The fact that Trump CHOOSE someone such as him as an advisor does not exactly instill confidence in the LBGQT community for the Trump administration.None whatsoever.

 “This is why homophobia is a terrible evil: it disguises itself as concern while it is inherently hate.” -Tyler Oakley

[Reallytrying]

I agree Thundarr, there is no reason to disrupt Barron's 10 year old life by having a car drive him to his school everyday instead of living in the WH with both parents.  Doesn't matter his father and mother were elected, by the people of this country, to serve our country as the President of the United States of America and our First Lady.   

It really should be about Barron and what is best for him.

This actually made me chuckle.  I cannot understand why conservatives who are all about fiscal responsibility are ok with a selfish entities decision that costs the US taxpayers millions of dollars.

I need to stay away from this thread because I will get really annoyed with the misinformation being presented but I can't let some things slide. Thundaar - I am sure you know that Obama did not have a travel ban. He did have countries where the people needed additional screening. This is not new - I'm from a country that has to jump through many more hoops to get a visa to come to tut US than many others.

As a feminist I have no issue with Ivanka Trump but to suggest she is everything the feminist movement wants is ridiculous. She is indeed a successful, working mother but her reality is very far afield from the average working mom. She has no idea what it means to struggle and juggle the way working women in the US do. That was evidenced from her comment that if she was being harassed she would find another job. Some of us can't just walk away from jobs - we have bills to pay.

California is not begging for aid from Trump. California is requesting aid from the President of their country. That's the way it works. Whether ca voted for him is irrelevant if they are now in need.  Every one of those voters is a citizen of the United States - Trump does not get to only assist the people who supported him - that's not how it works.

Karmirtsaghik, Rainbow gal, & others - I definitely stand with you. 

[karmirtsaghik]

Thundarr,

Obama was one of the best Presidents of modern times. He inherited really a catastrophic situation in foreign policy (which is till unresolved), economy, health care, etc. He is of the exceptional intelligence and eloquence. And his wife, Michelle is the one who is a real role model, class act in herself. I wish there was a chance for him to have a third term. He made me really proud to be voting the first time in America, and voting for him both times. He will be dearly missed, after Trump is done "making America great again".

Ivanka Trump, is a role model, please give me a break. Ivanka trump is the epitome of arrogance and entitlement. Trump committed to eliminating gender disparity, by grabbing the women, telling his White House staffers to dress like a woman. Which century he thinks he lives in? Or by appointing his daughter to serve in his administration. Millions of girls now think that if you have rich daddy, you can get many places, including the White house. What did Ivanka accomplished on her own, what challenges did she overcome in her life. Does she face the same kind of choices like many women who yearn to have a career, but cannot afford day care for their children, or have to choose between taking care of their children or going to work? I would want somebody with a little bit more humility, kindness, compassion, and character be a role model for my D9 than Ivanka.

[Reallytrying]

I detested Obama for shining the rainbow lights on the national monuments.  It was a middle finger to the Christian community and showed he was the special interest president. 

You are aware that gay & Christian are not mutually exclusive terms?

How was this any more of a special interest than Republicand attempting to repeal the Affordable Care Act or reverse Roe v Wade. Gay marriage does not in any way impinge on your religious freedoms. You are still fee to marry a woman, go to church, and do whatever it is that you choose to do. All this did was grant equal rights & protections to a subset of the population.  We are all on a site that proves the erosion of marriage is not something caused by gay marriage.

[Thundarr]

No one's hiding, Rainbowgal.  There are plenty who believe in loving everyone but that gay marriage is immoral.  There's no "fear" in being opposed to something...no anger nor hatred either.  The days of the left accusing everyone who disagrees with them of being any of those things is, again, why the left was shocked that Trump won.  Your family, friends, co-workers did not want to deal with the childish name-calling and accusations.

Reallytrying, Obama's travel ban of Iraqi refugees is well-documented but was never made a big deal of by the left because ., well, he was Obama the Teflon God.  To criticize him in any way was to be labeled racist/ bigoted.  Pure BS.  But in case you don't believe me here's the story:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/muslim-ban-hypocrisy-left-said-nothing-when-obama-also-halted-visas/news-story/17c901096824ecd0a2e3a4d1e5ded377?client=safari

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