[Thundarr]

Interesting that no one mentions Trump stating that we need to KEEP the immigrants in the country rather than kicking them out after they graduate.  Ignoring the positive.

[RainbowGal]

  Osb,Karmirtsaghik etc.I stand with you.
 
 As a human being who happened to be born both female and lesbian,I have experienced discrimination on both accounts.Thus,the election of Trump and his ilk feels very personal to me.And not in a good way.

And as far as "fear" goes, I'm not sure if that's an attack on me as a man or part of the liberal narrative that implies anyone who disagrees with them does so out of fear or hatred.  Sorry, but there's no "phobia" here and, while we're at it, those who believe in traditional marriage do not "fear" homosexuality. 

 Perhaps they/you don't "fear" homosexuality,but they/you have proven themselves to be bigots by desiring to deny same sex couples  equal rights.

 Those websites you link to are propaganda for the ignorant.

Myself,and the majority of Canadians are overwhelmingly aghast at the buffoon that is now installed in your White House.

 “What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?” -Mahatma Gandi



 

 

[karmirtsaghik]

 Thundarr,

Have you read what McCain said today concerning Donald Trump and his policies? You would not consider McCain a liberal, would you?  After all he had chosen an absolute brain-dead Sarah Palin, the favorite child of conservatives to be his running mate.

I am pleased to see him coming and saying things about Trump, and his White House, and the investigation into Flynn's Russian connections. I am hoping more and more Republicans would come forward and do their job. As it is now we are left to 1 fully functioning branch of Government, i.e. judiciary.

[karmirtsaghik]

Oh Rainbow girl,

There is so much hypocrisy in this Republican position towards the same-sex marriage, women's rights, family-friendly policies, it is not even funny.

Somehow they all are for small Government when it comes to their taxes. But they do not mind telling people who to love, who to sleep with, when and how many children to have, how women should treat her own body. Not to mention spending trillions on criminal and immoral wars, eavesdropping on out conversations, etc.

They say that they have family friendly values, but refuse to consider legislation that will mandate family leave for parents. As it is now US, is the only  industrialized  nation in the World that does not mandate parental leave. 6 weeks old babies in this country are in day cares, unheard of. No wonder the state of mental and emotional health in our society.  In fact, Women have it worst in the US. They constantly have to chose between having a family and their careers. But you know what, Republicans do not worry about women's and gender equality. They live in the 18-th century. They want women to sit home, and her Husband take care of her and children. Look at Benon's position concerning these issues. It is scary.

I am not even talking about Health Care system in this country. It is an absolute disgrace for the richest country on Earth.


 

[Thundarr]

Rainbowgal, I copied/pasted that video to demonstrate the chaos in Sweden.  I didn't even notice nor do I agree with any anti-gay websites.  I DO believe in religious freedom and the rights of those who are opposed to promoting or participating in gay wedding ceremonies and this has nothing to do with being anti-gay.

Do we forget the Pulse nightclub and how Trump's support with gays grew exponentially after that as they knew he was dedicated to protecting them?  Do we forget that Trump is the FIRST president ever to be in favor of gay marriage when entering office?  Keep them coming.  I have facts and the truth to counter any opinion or biased belief!

[Thundarr]

Also, Trump is dedicated to narrowing the gender gap and promoting women's equality in the workplace.  Ivanka is the epitome of everything the Feminist movement could ever hope to attain yet they attack her because of her name.  She's a role model to little girls everywhere yet intolerant feminazis will try to discredit her and bring her down at every turn.  Only proves to show the true hypocrisy of the Dems lapdog.

[Thunder]

As I stated before, McCain is one of the only centered Republican voices left in Congress.
He is a real balance between the left and the right, even though he is right leaning.
Actually Bill Clinton was the same (horror to the Republicans)

He is open open minded and willing to work with the Democrats to get things done.  He knows there has to be a give and take in order to get things passed.

I respect him for that whether I agree with him or not.

He is doing what he truly believes is best for our country.

[karmirtsaghik]

Thundarr,

First we should differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. The way to control illegal immigration is to control the demand side of the issue. It (the demand side) rests with the corporations and businesses that hire these people, pay them cash, way below living wage, avoid paying taxes, and exploit them 16-18 hours days. When President cracks on his corporate friends, including the nominee for Labor Secretary,  then we will solve the problem. The wall is not going to solve it, because it is not possible to build it, owing to terrain. And now the Republicans are telling Trump that it will cost 2 times more to build it. Mexico already shown their middle finger to Trump's suggestion that they pay for it. Now Trump says that he is going to impose 20% import tax for goods from Mexico, in order to pay for the wall. Guess what, that 20% surcharge is going to be absorbed by the American consumers. This is what happens when you make policy based on ideology, instead of pragmatism.

We need legal immigration in order to maintain our competitiveness, especially in high tech, innovation, and cutting edge research and development sectors. When the chief strategist of our President says that Asian CEO's of Silicon Valley make him uncomfortable, when he starts re-designing visa policies to keep these "uncomfortable" people at bay he inadvertently poses risks to our competitiveness. After these announcements, countries with rather restrictive immigration laws (like France, Germany, Belgium)  said they going to lure American researchers. Now you tell me that this is a prudent political move. What danger do intelligent, talented people of any origin pose to the US? they enrich us, contribute to the development of our country, etc.

[karmirtsaghik]

Thundarr

Did not you write on one of these election threads that you lost Obama when you saw a Rainbow flag waving from White House? How you can have it both ways is beyond me.

[Thundarr]

Thunder, on the immigration part we agree.  We need legal immigration to survive and that's exactly what Trump said in the statement I shared.  I want to see companies punished for hiring illegals and I see that happening, but Trump will be slammed for doing that as well.  He literally can do nothing that he doesn't get bashed for.

As for McCain, he has become the Democrat's secret weapon.  He and Lindsay Graham are sellouts whose time is long past.  McCain is butthurt over the comments Trump made about him during the campaign and the fact that Trump did what he couldn't.  McCain hates Trump with a passion and everything he says about him is venomous.  And as for doing everything for the good of the country, remember there's a great deal of evidence he bought his freedom through treason.  He speaks from his own bitterness and has lost all relevance IMO, and this is cemented by the fact that he bashes our President in a foreign country.  McCain is exactly why we need term limits as I was once a big fan and did vote for him.  I still say he would have made a better President than Obama and likely wouldn't have become the irrelevant joke he is now.  It cracks me up whenever I see a headline e such as "Republicans disagree with Trump" as it's ALWAYS McCain.  Funny how no Democrats liked him until he started bashing Trumpband now suddenly he's like Yoda, wise and strong.  Bahahahaha!!!