[PatienceGalore]

A slap across the head? Quick and to the point!

[toughtimes]

I think I read that sometimes it's the death of a loved one, or a physical injury, or breaking up with ow??? I can't see h and ow splitting up, they are working together, living together and have got it way too good.

[PatienceGalore]

Sorry to heart that

[Albatross]

What kind of things bring replay to an end?

When they hit rock bottom and realize that all what they did in REPLAY totally not worth. Like drug addicts, they use bigger doses of drugs and they finally reach ceiling, no any dose bring to them high. Then they kill self overdosing or quit. Same is with MLCers, when they can't find anything which can bring them out of depression then they awake. Or they lost job, no money anymore on disposal. Or they feel that they will lost spouse for good. Many of reasons can be.

At REPLAY begins they cycle in mood fast and cycles are shorter in time. They seek something which can bring them out of depression. at end of replay cycling is also fast. Because they spend all things which they can use as drug. Escape and avoid for any cost confrontation with self, and for that is natural state depression.

Sou You can feel when cycles at end of replay become fast and short in time they are at end of replay. Then they stop hit overt depression, then they stop monstering You. They are in liminality.

[PatienceGalore]

Good to know...will keep an eye on that one, I think tiny speckles of that are appearing with H, but then disappear....I said if I cannot be your wife, I cannot be your friend, which is true, and I think he heard me for the first time in a long time. Now I have to continue behaving as such...to protect me.

[Searching4Answers]

What kind of things bring replay to an end?

At REPLAY begins they cycle in mood fast and cycles are shorter in time. They seek something which can bring them out of depression. at end of replay cycling is also fast. Because they spend all things which they can use as drug. Escape and avoid for any cost confrontation with self, and for that is natural state depression.

Sou You can feel when cycles at end of replay become fast and short in time they are at end of replay. Then they stop hit overt depression, then they stop monstering You. They are in liminality.

Albatross,

H recently decided to break up with OW out of fear that he would lose me forever; I really don't know if this will last but it is where we are at. I have noticed quite a few changes in him since this has happened; he is extremely restless, bored, feels alone, agitated, feels dread, cannot relax, sleep is being affected by restlessness and he can't stand being at home. He says that he feels like he is suffocating. Intially, I thought this was brought on by the break up with the OW but H says it has nothing to do with that. I am thinking that this is movement deeper into the tunnel but would love to hear your thoughts on it.

Thanks for the thread it is really thought provoking!

[PatienceGalore]

Adding to Searchingforanswers, my H recently said he hates is job(never in 22 years I've known him has he ever said that), he is now ill and he never gets sick, and I believe him to be depressed. I suspect he is at the very start of liminality. Would those signs concur with that?
Your thread is brilliant, and your answers have always been very helpful. He is alone all the time, and feels it. Feels pressure (not from me, from the whole situation we are in) and feels guilt.

[toughtimes]

Sounds like overt depression to me.

[BB64]

Adding to Searchingforanswers, my H recently said he hates is job(never in 22 years I've known him has he ever said that), he is now ill and he never gets sick, and I believe him to be depressed. I suspect he is at the very start of liminality. Would those signs concur with that?
Your thread is brilliant, and your answers have always been very helpful. He is alone all the time, and feels it. Feels pressure (not from me, from the whole situation we are in) and feels guilt.

Just a bit of overt depression. I have seen it twice maybe even thrice since BD with my MLC'er.
Your BD is still fresh. Depression permeates through MLC. Be prepared to watch him fight that depressive stage with high level replay antics.
It's only the beginning, I 'm afraid. Protect yourself.

[Albatross]

Depressions is mighty. Specially depression which has long therm. For example my W is in MLC since 2007. Being depressed so long time and sinking lower and lower, take look at that spiral in this thread is devastating. She does not remember how it is being normal after so long time into depression !

Let me be honest with You. I sink into depression with her, which is natural. If You live with SO who gradually sink, You going with him down ! It is instinctive. As time pass, You start react on her bad mood with bad mood. Twisted ? Totally. So, as I wrote on several places here, I become zombie in year 2011. When we clash in February this year, I was literally totally broken first time in my life ! Depression was so deep, that I feel how my acting in daily life is not normal. Thanks God, antidepressants kick in and save me. After that I got spiral up !

Imagine how deep MLCer depression is when they become totally unstable ! Use immature defense mechanisms. Regressions and act as people with severe personality disorder.

MLIDLIFE CRISIS IS MOTHER OF ALL DEPRESSIONS.