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#10: October 28, 2013, 06:52:27 PM
Well...he was so big that when he finally DID get drunk I was so smashed I wouldn't know the difference.

For myself? I find different alcohols effect me differently. As well as my mood when I start drinking.

I can drink beer or vodka and be fine... laugh and have a really good time.

 I did crawl into a bottle of Absolute once and sat a cried for most of the evening maybe 7 years ago.

If I really wanted to get hammered it was shots of Jack Daniels or Southern Comfort Manhattans.

 But if I drink too much wine? I get really mean.

But this was about 20 years ago...
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#11: October 28, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
To say that a person is their true self when they are drunk is to say that MLCers are their true selves.  Nothing could be further from the truth in both cases.  Albatross is correct....the shadow is released in both cases.  But do not confuse that with the true self.  When the shadow is released and takes over, separation of self happens...the beginning of MLC.  It is reintegration that is desired....the end of the crisis....when a person's full self is in balance.  If all inhibitions were lifted all the time, as in when you are drunk, you would be like a child all the time.  People need to transition into mature adults.  That is what this MLC is all about....people not being able to handle transitioning into the last part of their mature being and needing to regress to childhood.  It is a good thing to integrate your playfulness, but not at the expense of maturity and morality.  People do stupid, crazy things when they are drunk and usually make fools out of themselves.  Drinking is a addiction....an escape from reality and true self....so is MLC.
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#12: October 28, 2013, 08:03:40 PM
I also read somewhere that whatever age you first got drunk at can stunt emotional growth if the drinking continues...
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#13: October 28, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
My husband has always been a fun drunk. Very dry sense of humor that he usually only shares with those he is comfortable around would come out to everyone.  Now I know he drinks lots in his free time from us.  But around me, he will only have one drink if not at all. It is weird.  I think he is afraid of losing control.
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#14: October 28, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
My ex has always liked to drink (mostly beer).  His drinking has always been an issue in our marriage but it was especially bad before BD.  He drinks constantly now and has really gotten into brewing his own beer.  He has quite an elaborate brewery set up.  He was usually disrespectful, sneaky, and mean when he drank.  I 'm afraid his excessive drinking will keep him in the tunnel and unable to end his crisis.  I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts on this subject.  iHh
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#15: October 29, 2013, 01:52:29 AM
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I always thought peoples drinking was to escape emotional pain.

 I was pretty much raised in a barroom during my teen years. I mean there is the socializing aspect ..but I'm still of the opinion if someone USES alcohol they are trying to escape the pain of something that's happened to them.

So unless it's some special occasion, holiday, or event I look at drinking as the way most people escape. Deep down they are very sad and somewhat lost.

I don't know if this helps...
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#16: October 29, 2013, 08:26:50 AM
I totally agree, in it!
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#17: October 29, 2013, 09:21:11 AM
To say that a person is their true self when they are drunk is to say that MLCers are their true selves.  Nothing could be further from the truth in both cases.  Albatross is correct....the shadow is released in both cases.  But do not confuse that with the true self.  When the shadow is released and takes over, separation of self happens...the beginning of MLC.  It is reintegration that is desired....the end of the crisis....when a person's full self is in balance.  If all inhibitions were lifted all the time, as in when you are drunk, you would be like a child all the time.  People need to transition into mature adults.  That is what this MLC is all about....people not being able to handle transitioning into the last part of their mature being and needing to regress to childhood.  It is a good thing to integrate your playfulness, but not at the expense of maturity and morality.  People do stupid, crazy things when they are drunk and usually make fools out of themselves.  Drinking is a addiction....an escape from reality and true self....so is MLC.

Well said  ;D
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#18: December 29, 2013, 03:08:42 AM
Guess what ? This is amazing ! My wife never drink alcohol before MLC as you can see in this tread. She drink some strong drink and said that she see some kind blur. Later we play cards and we usually drink beer. So, she doing it since she is MLC. And she become drunk a bit... :)

She become OPPOSITE what she is now ! Means she become OLD SELF ! And it is TRUE !

OMG. This is amazing.
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Re: IN VINO VERITAS
#19: December 29, 2013, 10:06:11 PM
Guess what ? This is amazing ! My wife never drink alcohol before MLC as you can see in this tread. She drink some strong drink and said that she see some kind blur. Later we play cards and we usually drink beer. So, she doing it since she is MLC. And she become drunk a bit... :)

She become OPPOSITE what she is now ! Means she become OLD SELF ! And it is TRUE !

OMG. This is amazing.

Very interesting  ::)  ::)

The drinking makes it harder for them to keep the mask on! Please keep us updated on this.
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