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MLC Monster Neurology and MLC
OP: August 25, 2014, 08:06:41 AM
So I have been talking to my 15 yr-old step-daughter in secret (late night phone calls from her room) as her mom doesn't want her to have unsupervised contact with me. They have moved in with OM who is newly separated from his W. And talk about fast!! BD was less than a month ago and since they moved in, they've changed the carpets and are painting every room as my W says she doesn't want the place to remind her of when it belonged to her friend, OM's W.

My daughter says it's disgusting being around them. They act worse than teenagers. She says OM is like a puppy attached at her hip around the house and every where they go. When she wants to spend time with just her mom and makes that request, he still tends to show up or is always there when she is talking to him. It really makes her angry and she's confronted both of them about it, but they just seem to ignore her pleas. And she said that the first night they were there, the OM made a comment about how this was the start of their "forever".  It made her sick. And she says everybody around her thinks it's weird such as friends and riding partners. She's embarrassed and doesn't want friends over. She's tried and they are all in awe of what is going on. She called me crying one night because her mom and her had been fighting every night about how she favors OM over her. She went so far as to call her mom a $l*t, as that is what her friends I'm sure are saying.

She also is tired of her mom lying to her. Before they left our house for his place, she said her mom wasn't sure if it was a good idea and maybe she shouldn't be pursuing this relationship right now. My daughter agreed quite vehemently, but to no avail. She just wanted to smack her upside the head with a pan and keeps repeating how she wants her mother to pull her head out of her ass. Or out of his ass......lol. And she keeps saying how her mom has lied to her all along about things like they were going to stay in his basement and him upstairs. Wrong!  And how they weren't together and just friends for the longest time even though they tended to sleep in the same bed. Wrong!

She's a smart girl and she knows this is going WAY to fast, considering we figure it's been only about 6-8 weeks that this affair could have been going on. I told her about some of the things I've read on this site, and that this will more than likely fall apart, and could be sooner than later. The brighter it burns at the start, the faster it will burn itself out is my thinking.

I just let her rant as I don't want to put thoughts in her head, but even she said that OM is a predator. He has cheated before on his previous wife. And my daughter says that when we were fighting, he was right there to soothe W, and when I took some time away from home, he was right there the next day. W couldn't escape OM as that might have allowed her time to think and he might lose his opportunity. These are all words straight from my 15 yr old daughters mouth! She realized we were having problems and told her mother that all we needed was a break to think things through.

I offered her to stay with me but she says her mom gets mad and she doesn't want to fight anymore. She also states she would miss her mom too much, even though she's not the same women. She states she hates him, hates his kids who seem to get more attention from her mother than she does, and hates the place she lives in. She thinks OM is quite a step down in intelligence and has no backbone. And she's wondering where her mother's went. She says it seems every waking moment is with OM or texting OM when he's not there, and going for lunch everyday with OM if he's at work. She wishes her mom could step away on her own and think. But mom's alone time means OM!!

She misses home (where I am which I am currently debating my previous decision to sell), our dogs that live with me, and her friends in the area.

The more we talk, the more I can't believe things. Who is this woman? If I followed her around like a puppy, damn straight she would be saying lay off. If I did any of the stuff my daughter described, even 5 years ago, it would have pushed her away. But now it's the cutest thing and she sticks up for it when my daughter confronts her?! I miss my old wife dearly, but who is this?! I would love to feel like a teenager in love with her again but this is way too far! I don't think I'd want her back in this state!

And the fact that she no longer puts our daughter first is a big blow. Our daughter has always come first in our relationship. And she says it was never like this when we were together, even in the beginning. It's way worse.

I don't know what to think!!  Is this MLC or is this an illness or chemical imbalance?! This is, indeed, one of the most shocking transformations I have ever seen in my life. I only wish I knew about these things prior to it happening to me. This site and others like it have really opened my eyes to something I didn't even know existed. But should have, as I may have been able to deal with it early on and maybe avoid what's happening right now. I feel like I have to warn everybody I speak to about relationships about it if they haven't reached the age yet where it could just happen.

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M- 39
W- 38
OM- 30
BD- 08/28/14
M- 10.5 yrs
D- 15
Moved in w/OM after I moved out for two weeks then discovered he was staying at the house. Moved back into house.
Feeling detached, we aren't compatible, lost the spark, overlooked many faults for years, emotionally mistreated them for the entire marriage.

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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#1: August 25, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
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Good topic! I think it may be a combination of both, mental illness (hopefully temporary) and then chemical imbalance. The OM/OW is just like a drug. I don't see any other way to explain the 180 turn around. I am attaching, interesting to see the conversation!
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Completely detached from his old life. Starting new life with the paramour. New baby born 1/2015...shh... it's a secret!! another baby born 7/16 LOL
M- 48
H- 48
OW - 32 female soldier in his unit
BD- 11/25/13
M- 25 yrs
D- 19 S-14
didn't come home one night, BD next morning, moved in w/OW
I'm not happy, We aren't compatible, lost the spark, you don't like to camp or hike... We have been growing apart for years....ILYBINILWY..... my life was meant to be on a different path...
laugh, you truly can't make this up!

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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#2: August 25, 2014, 08:55:42 AM
Attaching also....I can't explain, wish I could, wish I found this site to prepare me also!!

One thing I know for sure, in my case, I do believe it stems from my H's traumatic childhood and something has triggered it, plus add in midlife doom and gloom, plus depression BIGTIME. I know my H suffers from PTSD, my diagnosis, because of trauma that was never talked about!

This sucks!! I like you don't want the Alien that has invaded my H, I miss my old H terribly, we have 21yr old S, H has wiped us out of existence!! Moved out 8weeks ago and really not sure where he is!!

Take care of you, be there for your daughter, she is going to need you!!
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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#3: August 25, 2014, 09:16:24 AM
Poor girl... she's in such a tough situation! She's very lucky to have you to confide in. You're an amazing man for helping her through this. 15 is such a tough age already without having to deal with this crap...

It's ridiculous how a person can turn their lives and most importantly their kid's life upside down moving in with a stranger after like a month of knowing them! These MLCers are NUTS. Surreal, that's what it is.

I will be preparing the popcorn and waiting for it to crash and burn... I just hope your D won't be caught in the crossfire when things go pear-shaped. It's good she has the option of escaping to your place if need be, at least she has a safe place of sanity.

Sending you big big hugs...
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Me: 26, Bf: 33, R: 9 years

BD 17 April 2014
OW confirmed 28 April 2014
Phone call: it's over, 3 June 2014
NC and doubt I'll ever hear from him again.

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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#4: August 25, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
Hi csf
Sorry you're here-along with the rest of us...
Your question is a good one-and there does not seem to be one hard and fast answer.  Search the forum for "chemical" or "neurotransmitter" and words along those lines.  Some of those who have been here awhile have read up on different factors that could potentially lead to dramatic changes in behavior-sounds like your w is high-energy-painting, new carpet-all In a 4 week period?

Ready2Transform and Anjae have posted info about brain chemistry, hormones, mid-life crisis, depression-it's all fascinating-would be more so if we weren't the collateral damage

Keep asking questions and posting. We are here to support!
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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#5: August 25, 2014, 10:33:12 AM
And kikki and iamnottheenemy too on that list!  Absolutely there is a chemical side to this, no doubt compounded by andropause, perimenopause, and any medication they are on.  Three years in, I believe more than ever that my H needs to take responsibility for his health.  Sadly, we can't just check them in somewhere. ;)
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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#6: August 25, 2014, 11:19:14 AM
Me too on that list.  I believe mlc is a depression caused by biological factors for example, it's gotta have something to do with hormones given the usual age range.  If you want to know more about the biology of humans & depression, listen to Robert Sapolsky on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#7: August 25, 2014, 12:06:10 PM
Hi

I just had a thought - its just a thought so please do not want to offend any one. 

But here i am reading Calamity's post and it struck me.  100 years ago people that behaved contrary to their known personality or did things that were unconscionable blamed the devil or some negative spiritual entity.  Today we use modern psychology.

 I know on this site many people say MLC is not an excuse for cruel and hurtful behavior but really are we not helping the MLCer justify their actions by using MLC as a psychological condition??? 

What is it that separates those people who suffer Midlife depression but do not go covert and those that do?  More and more i am beginning to think it goes to character.

My brother went through a bad phase a few years ago he was 42 and he said to me he felt disconnected, hopeless and in a dark place.  He could not feel love for his children let alone his wife.  He buried himself in online gaming but never once did he think to cheat on his wife and destroy his family  -  because deep down inside he knew that while he could not feel anything for his family - he knew logically that this was not possible for him not to love his  family.  He recognized something was a miss.  He went to counselling and sorted himself out.  So what separates him from other MLCers - i think it goes to character.

just a thought - a meandering

sorry about your circumstances Calamity i really feel for you and your D.

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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#8: August 25, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
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My brother went through a bad phase a few years ago he was 42 and he said to me he felt disconnected, hopeless and in a dark place.  He could not feel love for his children let alone his wife.  He buried himself in online gaming but never once did he think to cheat on his wife and destroy his family  -  because deep down inside he knew that while he could not feel anything for his family - he knew logically that this was not possible for him not to love his  family.  He recognized something was a miss.  He went to counselling and sorted himself out.  So what separates him from other MLCers - i think it goes to character.       

I have been wondering this too... at the end of the day when I was depressed I never even thought about cheating. .. and the one time I was really tempted I still had the rationality of choosing not to do it. I have a hard time thinking people might be so far gone they lose the ability to make sound choices.

Then again a few days ago a guy in italy stabbed his 18 month old daughter and is claiming the voices told him to.he was depressed his mother was worried he might commit suicide. .. so maybe a mental illness can explain it after all... although one moment of madness is one thing, keeping at it for years is something else...
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Re: Is it a chemical imbalance??????
#9: August 25, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
thanks R2T--was typing from my phone and had to make it quick...i know there are many on the board who have asked a lot of thoughtful questions about the chemistry of MLC/infatuation/love, etc.  thanks to all (kikki, calamity, anjae, iamnottheenemy, lanzo i think too...) for sharing the fruits of your labors and experiences. 

somewhere, and i can't find or think of where right now, in one of RCR's articles, she mentions the "chemical" part of things--the "addiction" to high from OW/OM, but at the end of the day says that MLCers make a choice.  she explains it much better than i can--check in the articles section moment and dagolark.  RCR basically says "MLC doesn't give you a pass"
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