[elray]

Those that heavily influence societal norms such as the media, entertainment industry, rights groups, those who make the laws, and judges have also played a huge role in turning things upside down. There truly are no commitment guarantees anymore. Society is definitely all about self and selfishness.

For a college educated 40 something AFC (average f*cking chump) with a house half paid for, and a decent income, the divorce courts have effectively placed a $500,000- 1M bounty on his ass.  That might be why, in this cohort, Women file 70-80% of the time, depending on the source of your stats.

[UnconditionalLove]

I just wanted to say that as a LBS with a MLCer.  My H was on his way to filing for divorce right after he cashed in our retirement to do so. I found out and had to file for the divorce just to protect myself financially.  That is the only reason I filed because it would stop him from running off with our joint account.  How many woman fit my profile and had to do something they didn't want to do just because they had to? Now, I'm down as the one who filed when he's the one that wants the divorce so he can spend his time as a 52 year old with a 32 year.

[superdog]

I feel you are right the courts are heavily weighted to the female. BUT, in a lot of ways you can see how this came about. 9 times out of 10 its the woman's earning that suffers due to child responsibilities and the man continues to earn, continues to have his employers put all their proportion towards his retirement. (Sorry if not like that in the US).

For 10 years i was only able to put a small portion towards my pension fund, my h has it all in his. Why because i was here taking care of my kids. Should i be the one to visit the soup kitchen when i am 75 as my h shops in the supermarket? When it was a JOINT decision that i go part time. Really did we not do this together?

I see that it is not right when someone gets what they DONT deserve, but what about what they DO. The courts need to find the middle ground.

Its the old story that a small proportion of women have paved the way by demanding too much so that we are all tarred with the gold digger brush. I personally would not take what i am not due.

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[OldPilot]

The group that doesnt deserve it and the has the strongest lobby is the LAWYERS!!

I believe they are behind almost everything that happens.

It is all about THEM making $$$$$.

[Made]

Let's face it, if they can no longer stand being around us, picking someone like us would just mean it was all for nothing

This seems very true to me and we must remember the OM has to be more broken than her because of MLC, which eliminates us or men like us. Good men, not perfect but good.

[Braveheart]

How does the hypergamy work in my case then. My h's ow is less attractive, less confident and only 4 years younger than me. So at 40 she is past her childbearing years??

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hypergamy is a female thing, it does not apply to men. Your H's OW probably thinks he's a step up from what she had in her previous relationship.

[superdog]

Sorry braveheart, i assumed it applied to both and didnt google it.

Okay so yeah she probably does think that, however its all an illusion because he is a step up BEACAUSE he is with me. I am the higher earner and without me he would never have had what he does. Her h does the same job as mine, gets paid the same. Only difference is that my h played in a band and "being with the band" gave her some social status.

So all you guys want to be is "someone elses something better"? 

[Braveheart]

I feel you are right the courts are heavily weighted to the female. BUT, in a lot of ways you can see how this came about. 9 times out of 10 its the woman's earning that suffers due to child responsibilities and the man continues to earn, continues to have his employers put all their proportion towards his retirement. (Sorry if not like that in the US).

For 10 years i was only able to put a small portion towards my pension fund, my h has it all in his. Why because i was here taking care of my kids. Should i be the one to visit the soup kitchen when i am 75 as my h shops in the supermarket? When it was a JOINT decision that i go part time. Really did we not do this together?

I see that it is not right when someone gets what they DONT deserve, but what about what they DO. The courts need to find the middle ground.

Its the old story that a small proportion of women have paved the way by demanding too much so that we are all tarred with the gold digger brush. I personally would not take what i am not due.

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By law all of what you say is taken into account when assets are divided up. This is a male centered thread and we are not talking about wives in bad marriages that are forced into divorce. We are talking about wives who have walked out of low conflict marriages and blown up their families to go play with the OM.

[MyBrainIsBroken]

My wife was depressed and confused and the OM is a narcissistic predator so I don't think hypergamy had anything to do with it. And I think the circumstances are much the same for many of us LBSes, both male and female.

[Braveheart]

Sorry braveheart, i assumed it applied to both and didnt google it.

Okay so yeah she probably does think that, however its all an illusion because he is a step up BEACAUSE he is with me. I am the higher earner and without me he would never have had what he does. Her h does the same job as mine, gets paid the same. Only difference is that my h played in a band and "being with the band" gave her some social status.

So all you guys want to be is "someone elses something better"? 

Yeah, guys in bands are highly attractive to a lot of women, especially ones in MLC who are revisiting their late teens to early 20's. Sadly what I run into in the dating world is just that, divorced women looking for a better deal... As soon as it becomes apparent that's the case, it doesn't get passed the first date...All I ever wanted I already had, a loving wife, a couple of kids, a dog and home, but it wasn't enough for her.