[1Cor.13]

I am sure MOST bi-polar's are not violent 1Cor.  Nobody is blaming this young man for having a condition, what we are trying to do is make people AWARE of these conditions.  When we are aware we realize there is NOTHING TO HIDE.  Perhaps if this young man had not felt he needed to HIDE this condition, 149 people would be alive TODAY! 

Depression, bi-polar, mental illness NEEDS to be exposed.  People need not be ASHAMED of having such a condition.  Instead, they SHOULD be able to talk openly and educate others.  Get and maintain the proper "treatment" for themselves and openly discuss it with others. 

Let's eliminate the "STIGMA" that seems to accompany any "hint" of psychological problems. 

Hugs Stayed

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I agree! Unfortunately, our society treats mental illness very suspiciously. I can't tell you how many times I've been asked things like, does your daughter hear voices? Are you scared of her? etc..(Of course she has none of those symptoms/tendencies). Only the very smallest percentage of people on the planet are capable of doing what this co-pilot did, it is beyond tragic..evil is also alive and well in this world. There does need to be alot more education for people, that is for certain. I have been an open and advocating parent for my daughter, I have had to be for so many reasons..Anyway, sorry for the hijack here in the man cave!

[Rookie13]

I heard his longtime GF of 9 years left him and may have been the 'trigger'..

So sad...School kids also on the plane...

[in it]

Must have been..I think I read he was 27?? The loss of life due to this is hard to comprehend.

[Jackolar12]

I believe depression played a part, but I suspect there was much more to it than that.  Committing suicide is one thing but committing suicide and knowingly taking 149 other people with you is something else entirely.  My suspicion based on what I've read so far is that he was likely suffering from bipolar disorder with psychotic symptoms or some other reality-altering condition.  He took extreme lengths to carry out his act and put safeguards in place to keep others from being able to stop him.  Definitely not the pattern of someone who is simply suffering from depression in my experience.

There may be psychopathic traits in the pilots total lack of empathy for the passengers and crew.

[HeartTattoo]

Hi, fellas,

Peeking into your Cave to seek some support for a new male poster.  He is only 26, his W 24, together 5 years/M'ed 3, 2 yo S.  Obviously too young for MLC, but maybe QLC?  What he describes seems like some sort of identity crisis.

She developed some issues after the birth of their son, difficult labor & birth, use of contraceptive hormonal implant.  Three months ago she essentially BD'ed with wanting to be single, living together but in separate bedrooms. 

"I love you bit i dont have the feelings i should have for you"

"How can i love you when i dont know who i am myself."

"Your love is a burden. It is suffocating to be loved so hard by somebody."

"You are my ex now so things will be different."

With a background in Women's Health, I am familiar with some of the postpartum, hormonal, new parenting issues, but my MLCer is nearly a Vanisher, so I can't advise much on dealing with the in-house spouse-in-crisis. 

Could some of you guys check in & offer some support & anyone with Wallowers give some tips on surviving & detaching in that situation?

BuddhaDharma-- http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=6326.10

Thanks,
HT

[Darth Obo]

Greetings Gents!

Let me chime in on the car.......I already own the Challenger......dont get the stock 20" wheels that come on them! Buy good after market! I have the Rallye Red Line edition and already had to get 3 rims repaired due to dents / cracks. soon as I can find a cheap beater ill be driving the hot rod weekends only!

The pilot.....who knows. Definitely a mass murderer any way you slice it!


If I could hsve any car, old or new........definitely gotta be an Aston Martin Vanquish......





Cool happenings on the DO front.......bought me a house! got me a nice 1897 Folk Victorian........its a mix of colonial and Italianate styles. Pretty slick and about 80% restored and in solid condition, except for the roof. Seller agreed to a brand new standing seam metal! all electric, plumbing and central air is new and updated! Got it for a steal......gonna be a nice investment project. If I do sell it down road it looks like I might be able to flip a $100k profit!!! My mortgage is the same as this small apartment I am renting.....go figure!!!!!

Hope all is good with everyone considering the circumstances!


DO

[elray]

Here's a little man cave humor to start your morning...since we've all experienced our wives going through MLC, it is particularly amusing. 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

[PolarBear]

Bwhahah, thanks for sharing. Must find more unicorns!

[Dji76]

I recently met a woman who divorced her husband 5 years ago. She was complaining to me about not being able to find another relationship and that she hates being alone. So I had to ask... Why did she divorce her h?? Here is her reply:
"after 5 years and 2 kids I didn't understand why I wasn't happy and I finally decided I wasn't in love and then told him he deserved someone who loved him. He has since and for the last 5 years has been in a relTionship with his first girlfriend from high school. They are happy and in love and I am happy for them but again what about me?"
Then this "I know I love my ex he is the father of my kids and my best friend even to this day but to be IN love I really don't think I know what that is and if it even exists. I had a rough life and I'm just ready to be happy, it just seems like it
Will never happen for me."
Just thought I would share. Her words hit close to home for me as they echo my w sentiment. In fact, I imagine my w would answer the "why divorce" question almost exactly the same except for the still being best friends part.

[sleepless]

Here's a little man cave humor to start your morning...since we've all experienced our wives going through MLC, it is particularly amusing. 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

Ha Elray, I was wondering when this would show up in the man cave. The hot vs. crazy matrix works. Problem is the hot is so much easier to spot than the crazy.