[OldPilot]

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[Thundarr]

I love the fact that OP keeps breaking the rules about thread length that he came up with.  Jk, buddy.  LOL!

I'll keep the MLC car convo from the last thread going and will share that my modern MLC car would be either a Dodge Challenger Hellcat or one of the new Corvette ZO6s.  One is a 4-door sedan that can do 200 mph, and the other is just completely badass in every way.  My retro MLC car would be if I could fix up the '84 Mustang GT I still own (first car) and really deck it out.  That's on my bucket list of things to do once I'm financially stable enough to spend thousands on restoring a car (come on, lottery!).

[OldPilot]

I love the fact that OP keeps breaking the rules about thread length that he came up with.  Jk, buddy.  LOL!

Just to clarify they are RCR's rules - I am just tasked with enforcing them. 

I would have made a comment how pilots always follow the rules but
today that does not seem like a good idea.

Any comments about Depression being linked to the air crash of the german aircraft?

[Thundarr]

I believe depression played a part, but I suspect there was much more to it than that.  Committing suicide is one thing but committing suicide and knowingly taking 149 other people with you is something else entirely.  My suspicion based on what I've read so far is that he was likely suffering from bipolar disorder with psychotic symptoms or some other reality-altering condition.  He took extreme lengths to carry out his act and put safeguards in place to keep others from being able to stop him.  Definitely not the pattern of someone who is simply suffering from depression in my experience.

[xyzcf]

The news is now saying that the co pilot suffered from depression.

It is very clear (as we are all so painfully aware) that abnormal brain activity can be devastating. In this case unfortunately, way too many people died and way too many people will carry the pain of the loss of their loved ones forever because one man had a mental disorder.

The co-pilots neighbors are in disbeleif and have said that he was a nice young man.

To me, this speaks volumes about MLC as well as anyone of us could be prone to a mental health issue that has catastrophic results. Why he couldn't have just killed himself without having to kill so many is beyond my comprehension. 

[kikki]

This is a good descriptor of what bipolar mania can do to a person's perceptions and thinking.

False euphoria is the beginning stage of true bipolar disorder.  Behavior is similar to that seen with drug use, a cocaine-like high.  People with euphoric mania say they feel great/wonderful/beautiful/fantastic, but make many mistakes such as recklessly spending too much money, having sex with anyone who looks appealing, sleeping a lot less and not getting tired and ultimately making very poor life decisions. 

It's common for people with full-blown euphoric mania to stay up for weeks, start very risky businesses or simply pick up and leave their current life. Euphoric mania can be very cruel and selfish as the emphasis is strictly on the person with bipolar. The person can be extremely reckless and unable to judge the safety or effect of their behaviors. There will be rapid and sometimes violent mood swings, rage alternating with maniacal laughter. 

This type of mania can lead to a lot of drug and alcohol use as the person feels so good they lose perspective on the amount they consume. Euphoric mania always starts out feeling great, but ultimately the person comes down and often sees a path of destruction that is hard to clean up.

Bipolar patients have difficulty seeing that their behavior is out of line in an acute manic episode. The massive high, which seems abnormal to us, seems normal to them, and there is an unfortunate tendency to self medicate.

At more extreme levels, up to 70% of people in a manic state and 50% of all individuals with bipolar disorder experience psychosis, or a break with reality, along with loss of ability to reason. Of this 70%, over half are euphoric psychotic manias, which are particularly difficult to diagnose as they can be so appealing and fun to the people around the manic person. Manic behavior attracts people who want to join in on the ride.

Left unmedicated, people experiencing bipolar psychosis will resist treatment, as they are convinced nothing is wrong with them, they are sure of their reasoning and enjoy the high.

During a manic episode, the person's behavior feels "right," obvious and makes very clear sense, even if it makes no sense to those around the patient or is extremely risky. After the manic episode has run its course, it may be possible for the patient to see how unrealistic, unreal and out-of-touch with reality they were, but this isn't possible during a manic episode.

[1Cor.13]

My D18 suffers from bi-polar disorder. This is one of the reasons H left, he couldn't deal with it at all, his perfect little D wasn't perfect, and left me to pick up the pieces. I can tell you she is the most gentle person, she cried when I threw a snail out into the street..there is no difinitive diagnosis, I have lived with her condition for now 5+ years..They are NOT violent people, let me jujst tell you all this. I am living it daily.

[stayed]

I am sure MOST bi-polar's are not violent 1Cor.  Nobody is blaming this young man for having a condition, what we are trying to do is make people AWARE of these conditions.  When we are aware we realize there is NOTHING TO HIDE.  Perhaps if this young man had not felt he needed to HIDE this condition, 149 people would be alive TODAY! 

Depression, bi-polar, mental illness NEEDS to be exposed.  People need not be ASHAMED of having such a condition.  Instead, they SHOULD be able to talk openly and educate others.  Get and maintain the proper "treatment" for themselves and openly discuss it with others. 

Let's eliminate the "STIGMA" that seems to accompany any "hint" of psychological problems. 

Hugs Stayed

[OldPilot]

I am sure MOST bi-polar's are not violent 1Cor.  Nobody is blaming this young man for having a condition, what we are trying to do is make people AWARE of these conditions.  When we are aware we realize there is NOTHING TO HIDE.  Perhaps if this young man had not felt he needed to HIDE this condition, 149 people would be alive TODAY! 

Depression, bi-polar, mental illness NEEDS to be exposed.  People need not be ASHAMED of having such a condition.  Instead, they SHOULD be able to talk openly and educate others.  Get and maintain the proper "treatment" for themselves and openly discuss it with others. 

Let's eliminate the "STIGMA" that seems to accompany any "hint" of psychological problems. 

Hugs Stayed

AMEN to that!

[in it]

Well one can only hope a tragedy like this one can shed some light on the subject. It's just really sad that something has to happen like this for mental illness to get attention.

The same thing happened with Domestic Violence..(the football player and subject) that got national (possibly international) attention..

More of a womans issue..a matter of what is allowed contunues.

 Still floors me how people say "Why didn't she just leave? Instead of asking

"Why does he do this?"