[Bailmor]

I came across this and thought it might shed some insight into the minds of those our of MLCers who are depressed.  Jim Vance, who is the main news anchor at NBC 4 in Washington, DC,  recounts his struggles with the depression.  Very eye-opening interview

http://www.nbcwashington.com/video/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand#!/news/local/Jim-Vance-Opens-Up-About-His-Battle-With-Depression--Extended-Version-/303898191

previous thread: http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3812.0

[toomanytearss]

Attaching - I will watch this when I get home from work.

Hoping your having a good day Bailmor.  TGIF!!!!

[xyzcf]

My husband is an extremely successful business man who has it all. He was always very humble and played down his success. I also know that he has low self esteem and he has always been less enthusiastic about life...but he wears his masks well.

Excellent video. Thanks Balmier

[Bbmi]

The interview was a clear view into depression.  It hit me when he said he didn't return to counseling because he knew facing his pain and crying would be inevitable.  Successful therapy = avoidance.

[Anjae]

If it looks like a MLC it probably is a MLC

uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/geri-halliwell-disappointed-fiance-christian-horner-parents-snub-wedding-family-feud-054027318.html

Christian Horner (41), FM1 boss and Geri "Ginger" Spice (42) got married. He lelt his parter of 14 years who had just had a baby girl to be with Geri.

And now Christian and Geri are not only married but ""Both Geri and Christian are very excited about spending the rest of their lives together. Geri has been planning her big day for a while and it is going to be a fairytale wedding."

Wonder when will people learn that if someone leaves they long term spouse/partner for them, they will not have much of a problem leaving the affair partner. And marry the affair partner? Let alone one who had just been a parent and left the child other parent? 

And, yes, it is totally going to be a happy, full of trust, forever lasting marriage. Not!

[iamnottheenemy]

We have talked about whether counseling is beneficial to an MLCer in replay. Here's a statement from the horse's mouth about how it was not:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/25/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-marriage-counseling-the-biggest-mistake-ive-ever-made/?tid=pm_pop_b

As an aside, it sounds like he still hasn't completely owned up to his own role in his crisis, but at least he has somewhat repaired his relationship with his family.

[Ready2Transform]

Besides Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, who have decided to live on the same property while divorced, looks like Blake Shelton and Miranda Lambert are also calling it quits:

http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/20/blake-shelton-miranda-lambert-divorce/

Blake 'fell in love' with Miranda while still married to his longtime sweetheart and road manager. It not only ended her marriage, but also her career, and that woman, Kaynette Gern, ended up moving back to Oklahoma to start over. And...they followed her there! So she moved to Kansas and became a teacher. Good for her!

Affair marriages may take awhile to fritter out, but rarely do you hear of one that's forever - even when they're "adored" by the press and by fans like this.

[Thunder]

I think part of the reason is, if a man/woman leaves their family to have an affair with you how can you ever completely trust they won't do it to you?  They were capable once, they could be capable again.

I know I'd feel pretty insecure.

[Anjae]

I think part of the reason is, if a man/woman leaves their family to have an affair with you how can you ever completely trust they won't do it to you? 

You can't. And soon distrust, jealousy, etc will start to show. Some may lead long lives of misery together, but that is it.

However with MLCer who are on the second, third, fourth, etc OW/OM it is a little different. Only the first OW/OM was the one the MLCer left their spouse for. Still, since they are having a MLC is is not going to work. It may last, but it will never be good.

As for Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner I don't see it with having anything to do with MLC. Ben is an alcoholic and a gambler, Jennifer wanted to grab Ben in order to have a certain lifestyle. They are both known cheaters. It always seemed more Jennifer pushed, Ben gave in, for a decade they managed to play hollywood happy couple, but none of seem to had been truly. It is just very sad for their kids.

[Ready2Transform]

I forgot that Jenn was with Scott Foley before Ben. Is that what broke up their marriage? i can't remember, but they were together for a really long time.