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#30: November 16, 2016, 04:59:32 PM
I really don't mean to pile on, but need to mention that to complain the problem with Obama's gay marriage legislation is just that it trampled states' rights is a bit problematic. Because that was the same excuse used in the 60's to protest desegregation. Sounds rather like dog whistle politics... "I'm not discriminating against gay (black) people, I just want my state to have the right (to so discriminate for me)". Not cool.

There are a number of LGBT posters on this board (as well as posters of every skin colour and ethnicity). It would be ludicrous to try to detect any difference between their commitment to their partners, and my commitment to mine (or you to yours). As ludicrous as to say a woman who chooses to cover her head has a lesser voice than one whose head is bare (taking an example from this election, not at random). Let's be a little more understanding of our collective humanity, and agree on one thing: there is no human being who is not deserving of equal rights.

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Re: Election thread #3
#31: November 16, 2016, 05:11:01 PM
Thundarr-"On Obama, those of us who identify as being on the Christian Right have been not only marginalized over the past 8 years but completely been given the middle finger.  This was never more apparent than when Obama had the audacity to shine the rainbow lights on the White House and other national monuments the day the activist SCOTUS decided to rewrite the Constitution rather than interpret it as they are supposed to. "

Wow Thundarr, I was never so proud of our President, or our country, when he lite the rainbow lights on the WH!!
How do you feel he rewrote the constitution by doing this???

What part of the Constitution?  Please tell me.
That we are all equal in the eyes of the law?  We, no matter our color or sexual orientation have the right to happiness?  Was that just meant for white, straight people?

Just wow.

I agree about Osb posting... perfect!  This one too Thunder... Wow!  Beautiful!  I agree completely, it was quite a moment.... proud to be human! 

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Re: Election thread #3
#32: November 16, 2016, 05:34:46 PM
Thundarr-"On Obama, those of us who identify as being on the Christian Right have been not only marginalized over the past 8 years but completely been given the middle finger.  This was never more apparent than when Obama had the audacity to shine the rainbow lights on the White House and other national monuments the day the activist SCOTUS decided to rewrite the Constitution rather than interpret it as they are supposed to. "

Wow Thundarr, I was never so proud of our President, or our country, when he lite the rainbow lights on the WH!!
How do you feel he rewrote the constitution by doing this???

What part of the Constitution?  Please tell me.
That we are all equal in the eyes of the law?  We, no matter our color or sexual orientation have the right to happiness?  Was that just meant for white, straight people?

Just wow.

I agree about Osb posting... perfect!  This one too Thunder... Wow!  Beautiful!  I agree completely, it was quite a moment.... proud to be human! 

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Love this post too.

I believe that part of the reason why Hillary did not come out further ahead in votes is the plethora of polls that predicted that she had it by a slam dunk. There are some people who wanted her that stayed home complacent and thinking their vote wasn't necessary. Crossed my mind that NY was a slam dunk for her and that me voting or not really wouldn't matter but I would never stay home and not vote, regardless. It's just that I knew if I did she would still win it. That was true for my state but not true for most. So people who stayed home thinking that were very wrong.
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Re: Election thread #3
#33: November 16, 2016, 05:43:16 PM
I agree Anjae.  "The FBI director should not, in my opinion, have said anything about Clinton in regard to Weiner emails one week prior to the election unless the FBI had found proof of criminal doing. I would think the same if it was Trump. That was trying to influnce an election, something the FBF director should abstain from. In my opinion, he should had been fired."

Thank you. This I think this was the problem we all had on the left.  I do believe he should be fired.
When the Commission asked the FBI director if he was a registered Republican he said he was a life long registered Republican but is no longer registered as such, it should have set off alarm bells.

It did appear he was trying to influence the election.
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Re: Election thread #3
#34: November 16, 2016, 05:50:37 PM
Stayed,

Yes, I was very angry. I've grown since then but to imply that my husband is still in crisis because of how he voted to me was a low blow. I guess all the other Americans that voted for him are in crisis also. LOW BLOW. But I will rise above it as I have over other things in the last 5 years. I'm dissapointed that you have to attack my husband.
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Re: Election thread #3
#35: November 16, 2016, 07:23:02 PM


Finding hope,

Chin up, kiddo.  As someone once said,

When they go low, we go high.
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Re: Election thread #3
#36: November 16, 2016, 07:24:19 PM
Goodness, I was not attacking your husband, I was stating an opinion.  The way that Trump lashed out at Hilary, with that "nasty woman" comment during the debate was very telling.  It is not difficult for me to extrapolate that a normally kind and respectful man to suddenly become a TRUMP supporter, something drastic has occurred.  Now considering all of us have been dealing with mid life crisis's, it seemed like a fairly logical explanation.   Especially for a RECOVERED MLCer, as they are generally very remorseful and regretful of their terrible treatment of their spouse. 

I was not saying your h is still in crisis, I was basically suggesting that maybe you consider that as a possibility.  Even if he is mostly out, it takes them a long time to completely be done with it.  Remaining hostile to women, showing anger and hostilities to other cultures, ethnicities, faiths, could be an indicator that your h is not quite recovered. 

That's all I was saying.  I was also suggesting that maybe the same was for RCR, Slow Fade and perhaps even OP is having a bit of a crisis.  Many of the people that supported Trump have a genuine propensity to buying into his fear mongering.  Most of them are not well educated and have very strong views about what a man is.  Even their women, have a strong opinion about what women should be like, especially extremely religious folks as they believe that women should love first their God, then Husband, then children and so forth down the line. 

Just my personal opinion. 

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Re: Election thread #3
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Re: Election thread #3
#38: November 16, 2016, 07:58:58 PM
I was also suggesting that maybe the same was for RCR, Slow Fade and perhaps even OP is having a bit of a crisis.
 Many of the people that supported Trump have a genuine propensity to buying into his fear mongering. 
My suggestion is you look in the mirror.
I think you are doing exactly what you accuse me of.
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Re: Election thread #3
#39: November 16, 2016, 08:17:55 PM
I was also suggesting that maybe the same was for RCR, Slow Fade and perhaps even OP is having a bit of a crisis.
 Many of the people that supported Trump have a genuine propensity to buying into his fear mongering. 
My suggestion is you look in the mirror.
I think you are doing exactly what you accuse me of.

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