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MLC Monster Re: Attraction to the other person!!!
#10: April 12, 2011, 04:00:55 PM
If only my H would read this..... I told him he couldn't possibly love this OW after just 5 weeks? H said "why not? I fell in love with you after 5 weeks"?  really, I said, I didn't fall in love with you in 5 weeks or even 5 months.....

The comparison between me and this OW is un-nerving and I've never found an answer to it.....

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H - still a Vanisher - Maybe he will realise one day what he's lost...but after years of heart-searching finally it doesn't matter any more! I never thought when I was devastated in 2010 after 28 years of marriage - I could be happy again...but it's true - I'm done spinning my wheels - I learned to walk on the sunny side of the street and leave the shadows behind me. Brand new life for me & it feels good to be free of all the drama. No such thing as MLC - just men/women who run away & are too cowardly to talk about their issues, just cheat with other cheaters! Don't waste your gift of life on these pathetic spouses - live life & enjoy...don't waste your life wondering why...you will never know...Trust is precious don't waste it on people who don't know know what it means...

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Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#11: August 31, 2011, 11:24:18 AM
Thought this was easy reading and basically says that when our hubby/wife goes into mlc....that we follow their lead by having a transformation of own.........which is why we need to change too xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




This article is an introduction and a list of signs to help identify midlife crisis for yourself or someone you love.

I professionally work with many people in Mid Life Crisis by guiding the process to become a time of transformation. The most important truth is that this event doesn’t have to become a crisis. This should be a time of life to embrace change to become something greater. Don’t let this be a fear driven event, instead follow inner inspiration to make life better.

People often look for a list of signs to validate if a midlife crisis is at hand. The experience is a combination of feelings, events and physical changes that indicate a transformation is at hand. The final proof often occurs in retrospect after a person accepts they have changed and comes to terms with new life patterns. However, it’s possible to see the signs that forewarn of crisis and over time use the symptoms to actually help guide the mid life transformation process.

The truest indicators are the signs that actually illustrate drastic lifestyle changes in a person’s life. Most typically it will be friends and co-workers who diagnose the Midlife Crisis before the person in crisis will even realize it. In fact: just having someone point out you are in a crisis can be enough stress to trip a person into actually having a crisis.

Symptoms of Mid Life Crisis

The following is a list of symptoms that illustrate how defining a mid life crisis is truly relative to the person experiencing the changes.

    Looking into the mirror and you no longer recognize yourself.
    Desiring to quit a good job.
    Unexplained bouts of depression when doing tasks that used to make you happy.
    Changing or investigating new religions, churches or new age philosophy.
    Change of habits. Activities which used to bring pleasure now are boring. Unable to complete or concentrate on tasks which used to be easy.
    It feels good to get hurt.
    Wanting to run away from everything.
    A desire to get into physical shape.
    Irritability or unexpected anger.
    Change in allergies.
    Desire for physical -Free Flowing- movement (Running, Biking, Dance, Fast red sports cars, Sky diving, etc).
    Exploring new musical tastes.
    Sudden desire to learn how to play an instrument.
    Sudden interest in drawing, painting, writing books or poetry.
    Shifting sleep patterns (Typically to less).
    Thinking about death, wondering about the nature of death.
    Changes to the balance of vitamins you take. Or taking dietary supplements for the purposes of extending life.
    Extreme changes to what you eat.
    Excessively buying new clothes and taking more time to look good.
    Hair changes. (Natural changes in thickness, luster, color or Assisted changes in dying hair suddenly or shaving your head bald)
    A desire to surround yourself with different settings.
    Hanging out with a different generation as their energy and ideas stimulate you.
    Restarting things, which you dropped 20 years earlier.
    Upset at where society is going. Experience a desire to change the world for the better.
    Feeling trapped or tied down by fiscal responsibilities.
    Leaving (Mentally or Physically) family or feeling trapped in current family relationships.
    A desire to teach others or become a healer.
    Desiring a simple life.
    Excessively looking back to one’s childhood.
    Playing again just to play!
    Keep re-asking yourself: “Where am I going with my life?”
    Getting fixated on new “wonder” solutions to problems.
    Recently experiencing something extremely stressful. Stress can trigger a Midlife transformation. Some examples include: Changing Jobs, Divorce, Death of someone close, Chemical/Toxic exposure upon the body or experiencing a major illness.
    Doing things that get you into trouble when it surprises everyone as being out of character.
    Someone unexpectedly exclaims: “You are going through a midlife crisis!”



A Midlife crisis is actually the attempt to restart life to better fit a person’s heart. Due to existing personal commitments, it often isn’t easy to self resolve the inner conflict a person’s feels. As a result many times a person in mid life crisis will act confused or lost while trying to sort out the contradictions they feel and now have in their life. Also many times a person is trying to improve their life while not really understanding why they are acting in the manner they are. This mixture of conscious to unconscious actions often makes a person in midlife crisis unpredictable. This is also leads to the most dangerous mid life crisis symptom of denial. To confront a person in the initial stages of midlife crisis will often invoke and reinforce strong statements of denial due to the disconnect of conscious vs unconscious actions.

Most often a Midlife Crisis is defined well into the process of change. This is because it becomes most visible after a drastic shift’s in one’s nature. However, the process often has started long before the visible symptoms appear. It’s possible to aid a person to discover how to define life to fit better to what makes them content and happy. Care does need to be taken as often times a person in midlife crisis will feel trapped and in a corner without options.


Handling the Symptoms of Mid Life Crisis


Experiencing a midlife crisis is not about curing a set of symptoms. In other words this isn’t something you go to a doctor for a treatment to cure, rather this represents a time of life when a person is looking for an education to expand their life. It’s about shifting life to better fit where the person’s spirit yearns to be. A midlife crisis is a very natural biological and psychological process of a person maturing. While some of the symptoms might indicate a process opposite of maturing: at times a person needs to step backwards in order to move forward. This can also mean learning to play again since play is indeed a form of education.

Everyone evolves within their life as they get older. The truest resolution to crisis is learning to embrace the facts of one’s change and investigate methods of transformation. To do nothing is to let crisis decide how you change, Crisis still invokes change, but it’s an external change that a person no longer can control and often breaks those around us in the bargain.

Another problem is that modern western lifestyles are based upon chasing dollars and goals rather than supporting personal truth. People are so focused looking forward to their incomes and the next pay check that they forget or feel they cannot afford to embrace living to their true internal personal needs in the now. Sadly this way of looking at the problem in terms of finance only, also means just doing nothing and that only promotes and expands the crisis into happening anyway!

    Understand: It is far cheaper to address and educate oneself in this process than it is to pay the longer term consequences of letting it become a full fledged crisis.

Midlife Crisis Symptoms

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One of tht most difficult symptoms to resolve is the fact that people experiencing midlife crisis often feel separated, misunderstood and alone.

A bigger truth when in midlife crisis is that you don’t have to be alone. Rather you can find solace with those that don’t limit the transformation by outside judgments. Many times people in midlife crisis seek solitude to more easily avoid judgment from others.



I know from personal experience you can find answers that gracefully work. This isn’t easy and this is always an educational process. Finding guidance can make this process more graceful by showing ways to work around the common pitfalls. Don’t look for help that tries to define you, rather look for help that helps you avoid common mistakes! The trouble is the pressing feelings of being alone and the need to make this process one’s own path often make it all the more difficult to find outside help.


Partners of Mid Life Crisis


We must also consider the partners of those experiencing mid life crisis. Some of the signs that Mid Life Crisis partners often exhibit are:

    Becoming more judgmental
    Ignoring there is a problem at all and thinking it will all go away with only patience
    And usually 1/4th of the symptoms that the person in midlife crisis is experiencing

As stated earlier: becoming judgmental or patiently waiting for things to resolve actually only reinforce the problems of crisis..

Understand that the process of change is often as hard for the partner as it is for the person experiencing crisis. Partners often find themselves confused and even worse getting left behind as the person in crisis sometimes goes running off to search for freedom that eludes their capacity to define. This often forces partners to become more judgmental as they look for answers and this further drives a wedge between the partners. Know that the worse thing a person can do is to act in a judgmental manner that will actually aggravate a person in mid life transformation into running away straight into facing a full blown midlife crisis.

The most ironic fact is since partners are so close, is that they reflect each other. When one person is in midlife crisis, that midlife crisis is often psychologically contagious to partners. As a result, partners are often a few steps earlier in the process and this can allow the partner to approach their own mid life process more openly in terms of transformation. Since usually they are looking for answers to help their partner, partners often use those very same answers to help themselves unconsciously. Three times out of four it’s the partner who I first assist as they are usually the first person to contact me for help. Being earlier in their own process it is easier to help shift the process in transformation as they have made less mistakes to recover from and are all too eager to avoid the problems they see from the other person in crisis.


Finding Help to Resolve Mid Life Crisis


If this page resonants with you, then it means: it’s time to change routines and shift how you move in the world. The very nature of the signs you are witnessing are also a reflection of a process of change. Denying change is what brings about the crisis you are in or feel is looming ahead of you. Holding on to old answers gives life no space to grow into something new, the very thing a midlife transformation is all about. To preserve the aspects of what you love most often means to release and switch around quite a bit in your life to open space for the path of discovering positive transformation.

Change isn’t easy, and the prospects of change often paralyzes the strongest person. Ironically when this is the case then the solution is often to take a simple retreat to pause and to reflect on one’s life. Sometimes to take pause in awareness itself is the change people need! Often times pausing means to stop the actions which were fostering the crisis. As a result, Pause isn’t to do nothing, pause is an active process of examining potentials and considering which options would fit best in life! People often need to be taught how to pause and this is why those in midlife crisis often seek to learn meditation as a technique of pause to help them find peace in their situation.

This is a time of choice, the choice of crisis or transformation. To do nothing is to pick Crisis, To do nothing is to continue living life to the past choices that led everything to this crisis you face. In these articles I give a person some basic information to work with, enough so you have a chance to encourage the process towards transformation. If you have questions then it is a simple matter to contact me to ask a question.

The solution is often getting a new perspective to encourage actions that channel the crisis energy into constructive processes. Sometimes just asking a question is enough of an action to resolve a seemingly impossible crisis into a process of growth that truly transforms everything.
 
Source: http://personaltao.com/taoism-library/midlife-crisis/signs-of-a-midlife-transformation/
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#12: August 31, 2011, 11:32:51 AM
Uh, I've not seen you on here before but your post really confuses me.  I am a therapist also, but your post seems directed at the MLCers and this site is all LBSers.  I would LOVE for my W to be able to identify the stressors and triggers but it's too late for that now.  I think that would be true for everyone here. 

Are you trying to prevent us from an MLC?  I've not heard of therapy being effective on an MLCer.
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#13: August 31, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Partners of Mid Life Crisis


We must also consider the partners of those experiencing mid life crisis. Some of the signs that Mid Life Crisis partners often exhibit are:

    Becoming more judgmental
    Ignoring there is a problem at all and thinking it will all go away with only patience
    And usually 1/4th of the symptoms that the person in midlife crisis is experiencing

As stated earlier: becoming judgmental or patiently waiting for things to resolve actually only reinforce the problems of crisis..

Understand that the process of change is often as hard for the partner as it is for the person experiencing crisis. Partners often find themselves confused and even worse getting left behind as the person in crisis sometimes goes running off to search for freedom that eludes their capacity to define. This often forces partners to become more judgmental as they look for answers and this further drives a wedge between the partners. Know that the worse thing a person can do is to act in a judgmental manner that will actually aggravate a person in mid life transformation into running away straight into facing a full blown midlife crisis.

The most ironic fact is since partners are so close, is that they reflect each other. When one person is in midlife crisis, that midlife crisis is often psychologically contagious to partners. As a result, partners are often a few steps earlier in the process and this can allow the partner to approach their own mid life process more openly in terms of transformation. Since usually they are looking for answers to help their partner, partners often use those very same answers to help themselves unconsciously. Three times out of four it’s the partner who I first assist as they are usually the first person to contact me for help. Being earlier in their own process it is easier to help shift the process in transformation as they have made less mistakes to recover from and are all too eager to avoid the problems they see from the other person in crisis.

Hi Thundarr ive been on this site for over 14 months  on another for 8 months although im not a counsellor i think i know alot more than them to qualify lol.........my BD was nearly 27 months ago seeing o/w for nearly 3 yrs with o/c.......... my h as been in crisis for nearly 5 yrs  :o :o :o :o :o.............ive highlighted the bit that i thought was for the LBSers ..............i just posted the whole article so it could be related  lol xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#14: August 31, 2011, 01:16:16 PM
WGH,

Thanks for that. Because there are times when I feel that I am the one having a midlife crisis. Although, I suppose it is more of a transformation that was brought on largely by the reassessments of myself and my own life that followed the shattering experience of having my MLC H abandon me.

I have had to redirect my entire life, which has involved a lot of reflection and also some testing of old behaviours and new ones - and some mild teenage antics of my own (partying all night while my kids are gone, buying some new younger clothes - this was brought on by a weight loss too though, after pregnancy and then breastfeeding for 14 mths I lost quite a lot of baby weight, and then after BD I lost so much weight that someone asked me if I was anorexic  :o - I have put some pounds back on since then, but I am still quite slim and so buying new clothes is fun)..

Having been a stay at home Mum for some years, I am now getting back into work and trying to hone a career direction and I am writing alot (although I was always a keen writer, so this is less a MLC trait and more a "getting back to pre-baby hobbies" endeavour. MLC has certainly given men some writerly inspiration though...

So, as an LBS trying to grieve, and simultaneously navigate some of her own Mid-life issues, what do you suggest are ways to keep this from become a crisis for me too?
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#15: August 31, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
Thundarr, I think it gives great insight into the MLCer dont you think?? Better to READ as IF you ARE the MLCer.
(hope that made sense) It would give you an idea of what and how your wife is feeling.

I actually agree with alot of this..but I am confused about one.

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Most often a Midlife Crisis is defined well into the process of change. This is because it becomes most visible after a drastic shift’s in one’s nature. However, the process often has started long before the visible symptoms appear. It’s possible to aid a person to discover how to define life to fit better to what makes them content and happy. Care does need to be taken as often times a person in midlife crisis will feel trapped and in a corner without options.


Here it makes it sound like...You CAN help an MLCer THROUGH it...but I could be reading it wrong.
anyone like to help clarify this part for me??
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#16: August 31, 2011, 02:16:17 PM
Hi S&D i don’t think your having a crisis i think your h's crisis as pushed you to change the things you don’t like about yourself...............this is our journey too but these changes have to be for you and not done to get h back or you will just go backwards........... this is along journey and the time we’ve been given is to improve or do the things we always wanted to do and that will make us better people whether h comes back or not xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Re: Another arcticle by the same mlc counsellor
#17: August 31, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
Here it makes it sound like...You CAN help an MLCer THROUGH it...but I could be reading it wrong.
anyone like to help clarify this part for me??
By making your changes and getting on with your life without them.
You are leading the way.

They see that and come  running after you.  (maybe)

RE-read the stages of MLC  by HB
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#18: September 23, 2011, 05:43:07 PM
Found this link for those who are interested!!!!! xxxx

http://discover-your-mind.co.uk/1c-projection%20and%20introjection.htm
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Re: Projection and Introjection!!!!
#19: September 23, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
Thanks WGH.

"rojection means that we imagine that our own virtues and vices and attitudes are embodied in other people. We see in other people what is in ourself. This psychological stratagem is particularly noticeable with regard to our vices. We try to escape from our faults by denying them; we see them only as aspects of other people – it is always other people that are the source of conflict." This makes a lot of sense when applied to MLC.
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