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#20: April 26, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
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You have been such an instrumental person in my life as an LBS. Your wisdom, guidance, and candor will be missed more than you know.

Thank you for getting me through some of the darkest moments of my life. I wish you nothing but the best in all your journeys.

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Re: Hearts blessing?
#21: April 26, 2011, 04:19:21 PM
LG-
I feel the same way about the sorrow of the new newbies -not that I'm a vetran in this by any stretch of the imagination.

When I read thier initial posts it takes me right back to when I first posted and the absolute anguish I felt. Little did I know that that anguish was nothing compared to what followed a short time later. The pain got to the point of no description.

I remember one of the first people to post was OP.

I didn't know he was a HE at the time. ANd I was SOOOOOOO mad at him. He wasn't saying anything I wanted to hear. Just the GAL thing and "the gift of time" which I DID NOT WANT OR CHOOSE!!!

I wanted to post back- "I don't know who you are but did you HEAR ME? My life is falling apart and all you can say is it's a gift?? How the hel* is this unbeleviable nightmare is some kind of gift??"

I thought: Whoever this is doesn't have a CLUE as to what I'm talking about.

I'm crying as I type this because I know now months later after my first post how wrong I was about so many things- including that.

 I don't know what I would have done or would do without ALL of you and this site.
"Thank you" doesn't seem to be enough for HB or all of you
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Re: Hearts blessing?
#22: April 26, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
Inthis,
This is really something.
I thought the exact same thing when OP (didn't know he was a HE) wrote me - about the "gift" of time.

What the hell type of gift was that?  One that I couldn't return.   ;)

I guess WE need to be here for the newbies.  WE need to offer our experience (what it is at this point), strength and hope.  It is now our turn to do this.

We were thrown a life preserver (one that we may have thought was an anchor), but it was a LIFE PRESERVER after all.

We need to save each other and, in turn, we save ourselves.

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Re: Hearts blessing?
#23: April 26, 2011, 04:54:49 PM
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I'm coming up to a year now since I posted on this board for the first time. Your first posts to me set the tone for the whole of the rest of my time on here.

Everytime I saw you had posted on my thread it lifted me. You are a unique and special person. Wherever you go and whatever the future holds for you, you can rest in the knowledge that you made a difference to the people here.

It is hard at times for those of us who have been at this for a while to sometimes find the right words to say to newer LBS. It is hard when things are difficult in your own sitch to feel you are able to lift up someone else.

 I guess i just try to remember how grateful i felt when i found this place and how important it became in helping me to rescue myself.

 We all have a unique voice and take on this, we are all pioneers in a way. And it's great when the newer ones find their own voice and add a little more to the tapestry.

I don't know when my story will end on here, it very nearly did not long ago. We none of us will be here forever, and when we do put ourselves out to pasture, I think we'll look back at this place and time as being pivotal to how we have grown and changed.

I hope along the way I've made some special and dear friends here and IRL

I remember OP's gift of time speech too, i felt so frustrated, thinking who the heck is this bloke and what's he going on about :o :o
Mind you I still do think that at times(lol)
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Re: Hearts blessing?
#24: April 26, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
Well I sure am glad I wasn't the only one who felt like that about OP!
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#25: April 26, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
LG and all,

I read your recent post...I like to also add....knowing we p(r)ayed it forward.

HB, Thank You for your wise and comforting words, thoughts and blessings.

Love to all,

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#26: April 26, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
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I just want to tell you I appreciate and am grateful for all your time, your gift, the energy spent, support and dedication to helping us all.

I wish you well.

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#27: April 26, 2011, 07:16:19 PM
HB, words will never be enough to say how thankful we all are.
I understand this forum can take a lot out of you, there is so much invested emotionally.
God bless.
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#28: April 26, 2011, 08:16:39 PM
Laursecan has it correct:

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I guess this is like a Rite of Passage.
MLC is done and over for you.  It has been for some time.
I greatly appreciate all that you have written (for me and others).
I certainly understand that it is time for you to let go and move on.
It's funny.  I never thought of myself as receiving "signs" or anything like that - yet - I thought that you would be or have already be leaving the board.  I had a sense of that just the other day.

And this is going to happen to all of you, also, when it is your time; LG; get over your sense of aversion to the board; you are still within this crisis; and it is important that you dispense the knowledge you've gained from your own situation and help others with that knowledge.

Through the helping of others; all of you will heal in time; as time heals all wounds; and God(or the Higher Power, as some of you see Him), takes care of the rest...believe me, I know, I've been there.  :)

I have been out of this trial for a period of time; I've survived TWO bouts of his crisis in the past 11 years; survived a transition of my own; learned so much from these events; and passed on everything I know to all of you.

I started getting some nagging feelings not long after my husband passed completely out of his second bout; but begged to continue for awhile longer...and actually put the leaving I KNEW I was supposed to do, on a back burner; which was wrong of me to do.
 
When the Lord doesn't get through one way; He will go another route; and the next step was allowing the symptoms of my Hyperthyroidism to really affect me; I got meds to block the physical symptoms; but, like I said, my gifts don't stop working just because I go down, so to speak; they continue to work; and I continued to use them; just like I always had.

He allowed me to hit the bottom of the well to the point that I could not function; not once but twice in a week's time; my last looking, so to speak, was the 15th of this month; and I was unable to do or say anything....I got immediate instructions both times to close the board; and get away from it.

I stayed gone until yesterday; when He directed me to come back and search for this thread that had my name on it....because there were questions; and people were worrying about me; He allowed me to answer once again....and it was the same a little while ago; He said it wasn't good to leave people hanging; although; I've done that for the past two weeks; disappeared with no explanation; He changed His mind, temporarily.

So, I came back to read this thread; and knew I could not get away with not answering certain posts and comments....yet, as I continue to type, the heaviness in my chest becomes worse; and I'm struggling with each word; typing as fast as I can, before becoming useless happens again.

You think I'm kidding or making excuses; I assure you, I am NOT doing either; when the Lord gives instruction; He means for it to be obeyed; not overridden; and though He's allowing me to type as fast as I can; the feelings of heavy stress within are increasing; as each word comes out.

He's not going to let up on me; although, He has said this is OK to do.

You see, when I left the other board so long ago; my memories were taken; and I obeyed Him instantly; I had no other choice; I could do nothing more.

This time; my memories are intact; but I must do the SAME thing as before; there is a good reason for what's happening to me; there always is.

I stayed for as long as I did for two reasons; one was because I was learning some more things from his two bouts of crisis; and the counsel I gave; gave me answers, too; if that makes sense.  The other reason; was that I had committed myself to being here for as long as the Lord charged me to be.

Hanging in there with all of you has allowed me to watch the growth I saw happening within each and every one of you; and I guess I "mothered" quite a few of you at times; I never meant to be seen as a figure of authority; nor as someone any of you had to answer to.....the only accountability you have was and is to yourselves and God, if you were/are believers.

I never said I was always right; and there were many things that happened that I never foresaw ahead of time; and these upset me deeply when these unforeseen events happened.

I never said I was anyone special; that's for certain; the Lord, who is greater than I will ever be, brought me through all that I faced and finished.

 I always tried to be loving, kind and patient; even as I swung some heavy two by fours at times...God knows that I had been hit with quite a few of them, when it was me. :)

On the other hand; for those who want to know; our relationship gets better as time goes on.  My husband is still within a flux of change; and this is to be expected; considering he's not been out of his last and final bout of crisis but about 2 months or so...and change is still the order of the day for him, and me.

We will grow and change for the rest of our lives; that is a fact; there will be no more  MLC bouts for either one of us; but change will always occur at key times in our lives.

Both of us have faced our demons and finished this trial; I've been out of my transition, just a little over two years or so; having faced everything within myself in one fell swoop; that is why it took me 6 years...I was just as damaged as the typical MLC'er who has a great many issues; but I chose to face and come through; no matter how long it took...whereas my husband tried to set aside an issue; and it resulted in the additional bout of crisis that lasted an additional 6 years.

What I'm telling you in summary is that change and growth NEVER stops; even after the MLC/MLT is past; you will always face change in yourselves; your spouses...and this will never cease.

The crisis/transition triggers growth that is ceaseless; nothing will ever settle into a routine, emotionally; you just have to embrace what comes next, as it comes next; and prepare for the long haul.

In other words, there is no real ending; only change and growth that continues, throughout.

If you're still together; that's a bonus; if you're not; you've NOT failed; you never fail if you take the time to take the journey to wholeness and healing.

You come to this board thinking to save your marriage; but in the end, you do end up saving yourselves; because it is YOU that you can control; not the outcome, not the MLC spouse; and certainly not anything else; it will be what it will be; and the crisis is what it is...and you simply learn to deal with the hand you've been dealt, outwit, outlast; in some ways, outrun; as you leave your MLC spouse behind to do whatever they think they gotta do.

The question is; are you going to wallow in the misery; or are you going to make up your mind to march forward; and learn to deal with yourself?

Are you going to embrace the process; or allow yourself to become bitter over what you perceive you are going through?

Nothing can destroy you unless you ALLOW it to; so choose life instead of choosing to be sucked into destruction....life is all about choices; and if you listen to your gut, intuition; however you term it; you'll always know what to do...you don't need someone to tell you what or how to do....you'll KNOW.

But post your journey; unless otherwise instructed; it is helpful to others that come after you; you think it's not useful; but yet, it is; more than you know.

Marriage is NOT a means to an end; and you may say that's easy for me to say; as I came through with my marriage; but let me tell you; it was a LONG, HARD, road for me to walk; I fell out of love; hated him for a long time; listened to my inner voice and the Lord's guidance.

It was a BATTLE to get where I wanted to be; but there were times; I wanted to just give up; and stop all of it; it was hard on me; more than you will ever know, as I never told the entire story of the second round; only highlighted the majority of it.

It's HARD, I won't kid you; but if you will let go of the MLC spouse and focus on you; that long hard road; becomes a bit easier....in the end; IF you take your journey to completion; you are a success, regardless if the relationship comes through or not.

Get the tools down pat within each of you; then, dealing with that wayward MLC spouse will get better; as you will understand even more that it doesn't matter if they return or not; it is up to THEM; it always was....what you need to decide is what you will do with your future; NOT so much your past....

You must look at your own individual past in order to grow; but once that's complete; and you've pinpointed the areas of growth that you need to achieve; let the rest go; it won't help you....the past cannot be changed; it is set in STONE; whereas the future is liquid and can be changed.

I've faced these things and many more; in pieces; and some in lumps as time went on; but I finished the journey; and you will, too.

Time during the crisis, is most certainly a gift, I can attest from experience; just as OP always said; you may not see that gift for the awfully ugly wrapping that covers it; but if you will take a chance and tear into the package; you will see the beauty of time that is hidden within.  Been there, too.

Time is something you have; make the most of it; it marches on, just like it always has; even if you perceive it to be slow as molasses; but don't stand still; move forward; and focus on YOU.  :)

Take care of yourselves; and most of all, look to the Lord/Divine Assistance/Creator/Energy of the Universe to help you....this is help that is priceless; and remember all things happen for a reason. :)

And, for what it's worth; you're all very welcome. :)

Love to you all,
HB

 

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Re: Hearts blessing?
#29: April 26, 2011, 08:29:22 PM
Thanks for your words, and your spirit HB. Best wishes for good health and family happiness in your future.

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