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#30: November 13, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
Interesting facts with red-faced indivduals and low serotonin levels because my W has just the opposite in that she has a completely pale complexion at this time.  She is very fair-skinned normally, but her lips and face are very pale, no color at all, almost anemic looking.  Could this be attributed to low serotonin levels as well or is there any hormone deficiency that may be tied to MLC and this pale complexion?  I've been wondering if hormones / chemical imbalances are playing a part.   
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#31: November 13, 2012, 02:02:39 PM
Interesting facts with red-faced indivduals and low serotonin levels because my W has just the opposite in that she has a completely pale complexion at this time.  She is very fair-skinned normally, but her lips and face are very pale, no color at all, almost anemic looking.  Could this be attributed to low serotonin levels as well or is there any hormone deficiency that may be tied to MLC and this pale complexion?  I've been wondering if hormones / chemical imbalances are playing a part.

Check this out.  There ARE ties, including iron deficiency and thyroid issues:   

Iron:

A healthy person should have a normal iron serum level in the range of 60 to 170 micrograms per deciliter of blood. Iron is an essential mineral, as well as a component of the proteins are used for oxygen transportation and metabolism. Iron helps to synthesize dopamine, epinephrine and serotonin. Iron is stored in the body for use when dietary iron intake is low. The healthy body maintains normal iron levels by controlling how much iron is absorbed from food.

Low iron is called anemia. There are many symptoms of this condition. The anemic will feel tired. He may have shortness of breathe and chest pain. The skin may be pale, and the feet and hands can be cold. Headaches, dizziness, and a lack of concentration also may be experienced.

Low iron levels can be determined by a physician through testing, and an iron supplement or a multivitamin with iron may be recommended.

Read more: What Is a Normal Iron Level? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5434839_normal-iron-level.html#ixzz2C8tKQfsa


Thyroid:

http://www.ehow.com/how_5242395_recognize-signs-hypothyroidism.html


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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#32: November 13, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
BINGO!  EUREKA!  SPOT ON!  This has my W written all over it!  Constantly cold hands and feet.  Always sleepy and tired  and always drinking caffeine sodas or teas.  If only there was a way for her to increase her iron intake ::)  W had been taking iron supplements but didn't keep up on those. 

But as we know as LBSers, we can't suggest anything like that!  We would be considered "pressuring" them.  When things first started after BD, I suggested to W to get a physical and she told me they did blood work.  To what extent, I was never told the results.  I do think there are other psychological issues with my W, but these hormonal changes may be a huge part as well.  I thought deep down that there may be some sort of chemical imbalance.  I may not be correct in this diagnosis, but after 19 years, I should have an understanding about my W's physical health and appearance.  Thanks for the information, Ready!  This helps me understand things more!
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#33: November 20, 2012, 01:23:25 PM
This discussion caught my eye...I hardly post so thought I'd chime in.  I'm not making excuses for H but I know he has been severely depressed for 3 years.  I was his cheerleader trying to make him happy.  After BD and therapy and this board...I've realized I can't make him happy and I went about it the wrong way.

I too told him he needed to get an MRI done and blood work 2 yrs ago.  Come to find out.. he has a frontal lobe tumor in the pituitary gland which is affecting all his hormones.  His testosterone was at a record low and his prolactins a record high.  He agreed to take the medication....WHOLE NEW MAN!!!!!  Then...we couldn't afford the medication anymore.  It was costing us $600 a month.  Well - I talked him into getting rechecked in May 2012 and all his hormones were back in the horrible range.  Example- Testosterone is supposed to be over 500 in men..his was 85.  Prolactins are supposed to be under 18 in men - his was 2600.  Thank you GOD - they now sell generic so its affordable.

A bit to late though cuz BD was end of May and moved out in June.  Its takes a good amount of time for meds to kick in with those levels.  I  just hope he's still taking them.

Thats my info for you guys!!!
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#34: November 20, 2012, 02:53:03 PM
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/252082.php

article on depression and the brain
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The Biochemistry of MLC and Infidelity II
#36: June 20, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
I think our last biochemistry thread is long archived, so I thought I'd start this one for a new collection of articles and research. 

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=2951.0;all
Found this older one on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/12/love.heart.brain/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

What your heart and brain are doing when you're in love
By Elizabeth Landau, CNN
February 12, 2010 2:16 p.m. EST
The hormones oxytocin and vasopressin make you feel deeply attached to someone.


(CNN) -- Poets, novelists and songwriters have described it in countless turns of phrase, but at the level of biology, love is all about chemicals.

Although the physiology of romantic love has not been extensively studied, scientists can trace the symptoms of deep attraction to their logical sources.

"Part of the whole attraction process is strongly linked to physiological arousal as a whole," said Timothy Loving (his real name), assistant professor of human ecology at the University of Texas, Austin. "Typically, that's going to start with things like increased heart rate, sweatiness and so on,"

When you catch sight of your beloved and your heart starts racing, that's because of an adrenaline rush, said Dr. Reginald Ho, a cardiac electrophysiologist and associate professor of medicine at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Here's how it works: The brain sends signals to the adrenal gland, which secretes hormones such as adrenaline, epinephrine and norepinephrine. They flow through the blood and cause the heart to beat faster and stronger, Ho said.

The response is somewhat similar to a fast heartbeat while running on a treadmill, although exercise has other benefits, he said.

For people with serious heart problems, love could actually be dangerous, Ho said. That's because when the heart rate goes up, the heart uses more oxygen, which can be risky for an older person with blood vessel blockages or who has had a prior heart attack. But good medicines such as beta blockers help curb the adrenaline response, Ho said.

It is also likely that norepinephrine, a stress hormone that governs attention and responding actions, makes you feel weak in the knees, said Helen Fisher, professor at Rutgers University and author of the book "Why Him? Why Her? Finding Real Love by Understanding Your Personality Type."

Fisher's research team did brain imaging of people who said they were "madly in love" and found activity in the area of the brain that produces the neurotransmitter dopamine. Dopamine and norepinephrine are closely related.

"What dopamine does is it gives you that focused attention, the craving, the euphoria, the energy and the motivation, in this case the motivation to win life's greatest prize," she said.

This norepinephrine response has never been precisely studied in relation to romantic love, but the system seems to be more activated in people in love, she said.

Also likely involved is the serotonin system, she said. Some data from an Italian study indicate that a drop in serotonin levels is associated with obsessive thinking.

The stress hormone cortisol has also been shown to have implications for love, Loving said. His lab showed study participants who had recently fallen in love a picture of a romantic partner or friend, and had them describe or "relive" the moment of falling in love or wanting to be friends, respectively. Those who recalled falling in love showed an increase in stress hormones such as cortisol even 30 minutes after they were asked to think about it.

Generally, there are three brain systems involved in romantic love: sex drive, love and attachment, Fisher said. The sex drive evolved to get you to look for a lot of partners, the "love" portion is for focusing mating energy on one specific person at a time, and attachment is for allowing you to tolerate the partner -- at least, long enough to have children with him or her.

These systems are often connected, but can operate separately, she said. That means you can start out with one of them -- casual sex, or an intense feeling of love, or an emotional connection -- and move on to the others. For example, what may start out as a one-night stand may feel like more because the hormones oxytocin and vasopressin, released during orgasm, make you feel deeply attached to someone. You may feel in love after that, or instead feel somehow responsible for the person, because of these hormones.

Fisher's team has found that romantic love doesn't have to die -- they found the same activity in the brains of people who said they were in love after 20 years of marriage as in people who had just fallen in love. This brain area makes dopamine and sends it to other areas.

In the days of early humans, in hunting-and-gathering societies, these qualities were especially advantageous for finding a person to bear and raise children with, she said.

Why, then, do small children fall in love if they are not trying to reproduce? Fisher hypothesizes that kids -- even 4-year-olds -- practice at love and learning more about themselves before it begins to become important to them.

Love also has health benefits for people who have aged beyond their reproductive years, she said. Being in love makes people feel optimistic, energetic, focused and motivated, which were all positive for health and societal contribution in the early days of humans, she said. So, it makes sense evolutionarily that people can still fall in love after their childbearing period.

Romance also is good for you. Studies have shown that people who have frequent sex are generally healthier, with a longer life, fewer coronary events and lower blood pressure. A 1995 study in the journal Demography found that marriage adds seven years to a man's life and two years to a woman's.

Loving's team is studying how people who have recently fallen in love respond to stressful situations. They hypothesize that people for whom the love is still new will respond to the stress and recover from it quicker than those who have recently been in a breakup or have been in a relationship for a long time.

"The guess is that when individuals are falling in love, they are walking around with rose-colored glasses," he said.
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Re: The Biochemistry of MLC and Infidelity II
#37: June 21, 2013, 02:45:12 AM
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This would explain the crazy obsession with the OW that I saw in the early days. 
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Re: The Biochemistry of MLC and Infidelity II
#38: June 21, 2013, 06:23:16 AM
Don't know if this will hold true for anyone else on here, but in my H's family there are loads of autoimmune disorders - rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Tourette's, etc. as well as the addictive behaviors, personality disorders and dementia that signal lifelong mental illness.

Nauert, Rick, PhD.  “Immune Disorders Tied to Mental Illness?” Psych Central, June 3, 2010.

A provocative study using genetically altered mice finds a cause-and-effect link between the immune system and a psychiatric disorder.

Mario Capecchi, a Nobel Prize-winning geneticist, discovered that bone marrow transplants cure mutant mice who pull out their hair compulsively.

The study provides the first cause-and-effect link between immune system cells and mental illness, and points toward eventual new psychiatric treatments.

“We’re showing there is a direct relationship between a psychiatric disorder and the immune system, specifically cells named microglia that are derived from bone marrow” and are found in the brain, says Capecchi.

“There’s been an inference. But nobody has previously made a direct connection between the two.”

The findings – published in the journal Cell – should inspire researchers “to think about potential new immune-based therapies for psychiatric disorders,” says Capecchi, a 2007 Nobel laureate in physiology or medicine.

“A lot of people are going to find it amazing,” says Capecchi. “That’s the surprise: bone marrow can correct a behavioral defect.”

Nevertheless, “I’m not proposing we should do bone marrow transplants for any psychiatric disorder” in humans, he says.

Bone marrow transplants are expensive, and the risks and complications are so severe they generally are used only to treat life-threatening illnesses, including certain cancers and disabling autoimmune diseases such as lupus.

Capecchi says that mice with the mutant gene that causes pathological grooming now can be used to study the surprising connections between the immune system’s microglia cells and mental illness – and ultimately to produce new treatments.
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Re: The Biochemistry of MLC and Infidelity II
#39: June 21, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
Studies have shown that people who have frequent sex are generally healthier
Oh goody, so I surmise that I should be dropping dead any moment now...
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