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#50: September 19, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
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awake from REPLAY

What causes the awakening.  Is it just a natural progression?

MLCers are like drug addicts, when their REPLAY behavior = EA, PA don't bring them out of confrontation with their shadow, they awake. It is sort of natural progression, but time spend in REPLAY or use of REPLAY is different for all MLCers.
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#51: September 19, 2013, 01:51:35 PM
Thanks for the clarification, I had misunderstood the Escape and avoid being the same as Reply, I thought there were differences!
Well, OW is definitely gone, and there is, in fact, more withdrawal from me.
I have stopped contacting him, and will only respond to texts (if they ever come) if an answer is required. I like your post about how you managed to make a safe zone for your wife. I have not always been that kind, and have lashed out in anger and fear. I made a promise to stop that and create a safe zone of my own, but as he is not living with us, it will have to be the fake it till you can make it approach!
Albatross, your posts are good, and they help me. Thank you
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Re: REPLAY - #2
#52: September 19, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
Patience there is a lot of " fake it till  you make it" done by us LBS's sometimes.  The only way to get through at times:)
Feeling safe is good for your H and for you!
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Re: REPLAY - #2
#53: September 19, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
31, thank you! And today is another day!
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Re: REPLAY - #2
#54: September 19, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
I am sure this is the articles but I cannot remember, I am 17 months since H left, BD3. Escape and Avoid started 2010. My H is high energy Replay, he is having a great time. Lives with OW ... 25, moved in a month after leaving us (23 when their affair started).

What I find difficult to understand is the anger and nastiness is ONLY directed at me. He is super happy and himself with everyone else, the children, OW, friends, family. Why?

I know he blames me for holding him and making his life hell and unhappy .... he now has the contrast of a great R to compare to our very dysfunctional R apparently .... but before he left me he blamed his parents and their D.
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#55: September 20, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
I am sure this is the articles but I cannot remember, I am 17 months since H left, BD3. Escape and Avoid started 2010. My H is high energy Replay, he is having a great time. Lives with OW ... 25, moved in a month after leaving us (23 when their affair started).

What I find difficult to understand is the anger and nastiness is ONLY directed at me. He is super happy and himself with everyone else, the children, OW, friends, family. Why?

I know he blames me for holding him and making his life hell and unhappy .... he now has the contrast of a great R to compare to our very dysfunctional R apparently .... but before he left me he blamed his parents and their D.

Parental divorce have enormous impact on children. They lost security. It is very hard to live as undeveloped human being when family fall apart... They will never feel secure in relationship, marriage. Like my wife, she blame self at beginning of MLC. She blame also parents, specially her mother and she was ANTIHERO. After clashes she REGRESS A LOT ! After fighting she become ACCOMMODATER. So, she blame self before clashes, after clashes she start to project blame on me. REPLAY is about getting freedom. In my case her EA made progress and she live in fantasy world more then in real world. She made decision to start new life as You can see in her blog. She is so passive, conflict avoider even in MLC, she said that she can live like that 20 years... But when I push her hard, reveal her EA, she regress and her monster take her over. MLCers are pity, weak, under depression, in fog, they can't decide anything. So actually she got some kind of freedom, distance from me A LOT.

Did You two have some fights before he start to blame You ?
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#56: September 20, 2013, 02:42:31 AM
Hi albatross, we have had lots of arguments in our R. We met when I was 24, he was 22. We had a fun time in our twenties, lots of parties and drinking and sometimes big rows! When I had my s8 I suffered with post natal depression and H was still wanting pre baby life but trying to be excellent dad, which he was. I found it all difficult, he was always arguing with me, he would argue with others too, you know big debates that h had to win. He was like that.
We moved and he couldn't get work so he set up a business. I had second baby and 2010 he started business and spending more and more time in the city we had moved from (I never wanted to move). I was resentful because he spent our money and I felt abandoned in this place away from my friends and with a baby and 5 yr old. Then in nov. 2010 he said he wanted out, couldn't do this anymore, couldn't let another day, week or year go by without doing something about it. I made him feel like his parents, made him feel unloved and that we were still young and could find someone else. He went on and after that I sank into a depression, just waiting for him to move out when he started earning money or met someone else. Which he did, march 2012 was bd2 but two weeks later he changed his mind. He said he will get therapy and i will sort out my depression and pms and we will really work on our R. He stayed for my d3s second birthday, we went on a holiday then a week later he said he was leaving. A month after that I found out he was having an affair with the 23 year old intern he had known for six months and that unleashed MONSTER! He was so blaming, he had hypnotherapy so he could fly in a plane, he blamed his phobia on me even though he hasn't flown since he was 15, when his parents D. He had false memories in hypnotherapy and he told me he had been suffering with Stockholm syndrome and that was why he stayed for ten years and had kids etc. he tried to make me happy bit nothing worked!!! This is not true! I had typical ups and downs of people going through the baby years with a H who earned no money but spent our savings leaving us with less than half when he left.

So it was up and down but I don't know how bad it was anymore because my H has really gone to town with the negative.

I just don't understand the niceness to everyone else and the total hatred of me. He was half of every one of those arguments. He was as tricky to deal with as I was at times. We understood that I thought. I think we both looked to the other to make us happy. But we had so many stresses and we didnt communicate very well when we were really under pressure. He projected a lot of his anger at his mother onto me. And I was not aware of the term projection until all this! I turned my anger onto him because I felt resentful and put upon. I earned the money, I did the housework and I looked after the kids. He had fun with our money and our time and was risking our family. My son was very troubled by his dads absence when the business started, previously he had been a super hands on always around dad.

It's so complicated and there are so many outside factors. When I read this back I think, maybe h is right, the R was dysfunctional. But I felt like it was us as individuals not our R or our marriage that needed attention. But maybe I am wrong and I'm just clinging onto that?

I also feel like he has drawn upon examples ten yeas old and I'm not the same person.
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#57: September 20, 2013, 05:12:24 AM
I am sure this is the articles but I cannot remember, I am 17 months since H left, BD3. Escape and Avoid started 2010. My H is high energy Replay, he is having a great time. Lives with OW ... 25, moved in a month after leaving us (23 when their affair started).

What I find difficult to understand is the anger and nastiness is ONLY directed at me. He is super happy and himself with everyone else, the children, OW, friends, family. Why?

I know he blames me for holding him and making his life hell and unhappy .... he now has the contrast of a great R to compare to our very dysfunctional R apparently .... but before he left me he blamed his parents and their D.

Parental divorce have enormous impact on children. They lost security. It is very hard to live as undeveloped human being when family fall apart... They will never feel secure in relationship, marriage. Like my wife, she blame self at beginning of MLC. She blame also parents, specially her mother and she was ANTIHERO. After clashes she REGRESS A LOT ! After fighting she become ACCOMMODATER. So, she blame self before clashes, after clashes she start to project blame on me. REPLAY is about getting freedom. In my case her EA made progress and she live in fantasy world more then in real world. She made decision to start new life as You can see in her blog. She is so passive, conflict avoider even in MLC, she said that she can live like that 20 years... But when I push her hard, reveal her EA, she regress and her monster take her over. MLCers are pity, weak, under depression, in fog, they can't decide anything. So actually she got some kind of freedom, distance from me A LOT.

Did You two have some fights before he start to blame You ?

Albatross, I know you will probably say not a good idea, but you have written my H's and my life in that quote. Both come from separated families, both promised we would not do that to our children, and he has done just that (we are not divorced, he has moved out). I want to let him know what you say, in the hope it will make him think about what he is doing, and why he did what he did? I am NC at the moment, to try and keep sane, what do you think, is that considered pressure? I believe my H is projecting his anger at his mother, but he is not mean to me, he is just cold, distant, uniterested, no empathy, a little sure of himself!
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Re: REPLAY - #2
#58: September 20, 2013, 07:44:48 AM
Albatross, I know you will probably say not a good idea, but you have written my H's and my life in that quote. Both come from separated families, both promised we would not do that to our children, and he has done just that (we are not divorced, he has moved out). I want to let him know what you say, in the hope it will make him think about what he is doing, and why he did what he did? I am NC at the moment, to try and keep sane, what do you think, is that considered pressure? I believe my H is projecting his anger at his mother, but he is not mean to me, he is just cold, distant, uniterested, no empathy, a little sure of himself!

I don't know what to say. MLCer is in terrible situation by him self. If You point him that, he will then feel even more guilt. And they running away from life - literally. He probably will try to run even faster. Remember escape and avoid. But You know better own situation, so it is up to You.
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Re: REPLAY - #2
#59: September 20, 2013, 07:50:29 AM
Ok. On reflection the more I say the worse he feels. So mouth shut, but it is all so correct what you wrote and it reflects my H so much.
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