[PatienceGalore]

Thank you albatross. Waiting for that dissolution!!! And  finding jojo, no I don't want the person he is. I want the guy I married, cool ticket in a band!!!! So cool!

[CallanG]

Thanks Albatross another interesting read .

Callan

[Lanzo]

How one missed placed word can confuse  your understanding.

I presume TICK = Thick. 

So now I know

Ego = Self ( The person we loved)

Persona =Mask they hide behind (also Monster)

Shadow = (Bad feelings, resentment from the past that they are running from)

Please correct me if I’m wrong otherwise I think I’ve got it.
Now I can re read everything (I’ve even drawn myself a little diagram to help).

Thanks again

Albatross

[Albatross]

Consciousness is the quality or state of being aware of an external object or something within oneself.
The unconscious mind (or the unconscious) consists of the processes in the mind that occur automatically and are not available to introspection, and include thought processes, memory, affect, and motivation.
The psyche is the totality of the human mind, conscious, and unconscious. Jung called psyche Self.
The persona, for Swiss psychologist Carl Jung, was the social face the individual presented to the world—"a kind of mask, designed on the one hand to make a definite impression upon others, and on the other to conceal the true nature of the individual". Persona is part of ego.
Contrary to a Freudian conceptualization of shadow, therefore, the Jungian shadow often refers to all that lies outside the light of consciousness, and may be positive or negative.

[Snowdrop]

If anyone sees a book about this, but "for dummies", please let me know as I continue to try and understand it, but don't get much further than   Albatross, you do such a great job at explaining it all, and I love the thread.  It is so fascinating.  I just need to understand how to understand it.   I'm working on it.  Thank you Albert!

[31andcounting]

Snowdrop~ that made me laugh "out loud"   cause I kind of feel the same
31andcounting

[BB64]

*nods in agreement with Sd and 31*

[Albatross]

If anyone sees a book about this, but "for dummies", please let me know as I continue to try and understand it, but don't get much further than   Albatross, you do such a great job at explaining it all, and I love the thread.  It is so fascinating.  I just need to understand how to understand it.   I'm working on it.  Thank you Albert!

Snowdrop~ that made me laugh "out loud"   cause I kind of feel the same
31andcounting

*nods in agreement with Sd and 31*

OK I will try to simplify all of this for dummies.  No hard feelings. 

[Lanzo]

Hi Snowdrop,

I was going to say the same thing about a version for dummies but I'm persevering and I think I'm getting there.

Hey Albatross,

Based on my understanding now from what I've read, I can see that I met and fell in love with the Ego (self) but married the persona (Mask, Monster) as this version of W has been in evidence for a very long time. Even family members noticed this as they used to say to me that W had more FRONT than ******** (local seaside town). Meaning her personality was a front and we were seeing not the real person.

All good reading, great trying to understand it.

Lanzo

[twilightzone]

Lanzo,

The way I understand it is everyone has a persona.....MLC or not.....which is the face they present to the world which is a mixture of a part of who they really are but mostly who they believe they SHOULD be or who they think they need to be in order for the world (or whomever it might be they are interacting with) to like them.  The persona is a mask but it is not monster.

With respect to the MLCer, the mask is the persona that the MLCer presents to the world to hide the monster who has taken him/her over.  Monster is usually in control of an MLCer, whether or not they happen to be monstering, but the mask will make the MLCer look like a perfectly normal, rationally functioning, lucid human being.  MLCers are careful to wear the mask when they are hiding their MLC....at work, with their new friends, etc.  But the mask will often come off when dealing with the LBS and then the alien will show him/her MLC self and maybe even monster at the LBSer.