[stayed]

Sadly the squeaky wheel get's the grease! 

When my kids were high school, they were debating putting condom machine's in the bathrooms.  This high school had a very high pregnancy rate.  I remember discussing it with all my friends and other parents whose children attended the school.  They had a open session at the school and a vote at the end of the discussion.  I was out of town during this meeting, but I wasn't worried in the least, as all the parents I had spoken to, like me, were in TOTAL FAVOUR of condoms in the school.

When I returned I heard that the condoms in the high school were voted down.  I was furious, I felt I had been lied to.  Sadly, that was not what happened.  It tuned out, that the only people who attended this meeting, were the people that were AGAINST condoms in the high school.  They were a very small group, too, who felt that it was encouraging children to have sex... lalalala.. you all know the song.  Was against their RELIGIOUS beliefs, lalalala...

The point is, if you want something you have to fight for it.  I personally think the thread name MAN CAVE is pretty self explanatory.  If the big bold warning offends you, then write RCR and complain. RCR is probably one of the most reasonable and sensible people you will ever meet.  Her only concern was she didn't want anybody to feel excluded.  She hates censorship.  She's easy to contact. 

Hugs Stayed

[MeNow]

You must be very slippery.

[in it]

Well if there's no crying allowed I'm leaving!!!

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[honour]

Honestly fellas, we are only defined by women if we allow it to be that way.

I'm not allowing it. How 'bout you?

[Braveheart]

it was obviously making money

And how do you know this?

You can estimate a sites advertising income by the amount of traffic it gets, the site in question was one of the larger sites related to relationships and they received a huge amount of traffic every month.

[Dji76]

Honour, I'm not allowing it either. If there are things I refrain from posting its not because the women are defining me. I'm newer to lots of this and tryin to soak in as much as possible from you guys (and women) that have more life experience than I do. I do believe some things shouldn't be posted for the world to see but that's more about my own privacy boundaries.

[elray]

I do believe some things shouldn't be posted for the world to see but that's more about my own privacy boundaries.

Most true degenerates say things like this.   

[Dji76]

Hey!! Haha c'mon elray... I thought u were better than that lol.

[MyBrainIsBroken]

It is the bad asses who are valued. You don't believe me? Look around this forum and it is chocked full of women who are aching to be in a relationship with someone who has lied and cheated on them. Yet, men who have been loyal, loving and strive to live by principles and who have themselves suffered abuse are "permitted" approved threads that carry large purple warnings against abusive behaviour.

How often do we hear the phrase, "there are no good men left." Maybe there are good men left but perhaps they are just not highly valued.

This bothered me too and it bothered me that the two women who took exception to it were told they weren't allowed to complain in the MAN CAVE. Since I was a man last time I looked I guess I'll go ahead and post and maybe somebody can let me know if I should stay out of the MAN CAVE.

What bothers me is the statement about bad asses being valued. The inference that I am seeing here is that the female LBSes are aching to be in a relationship with their "bad ass" husbands who lied and cheated on them. Well, I am aching to be in a relationship with my wife who lied and cheated on me so I guess that makes my wife a bad ass, too. I don't think so. I think my wife is a woman in crisis and I believe the male MLCers are men in crisis and the statement about any MLCer being a bad ass is an insult to both the MLCer and the LBS. My wife was not a "bad ass" before this crisis took her. Some of the male MLCers may have been bad asses but I suspect most weren't. I don't believe most of the LBSes on here of either gender really want a relationship with the current, bad ass, lying and cheating version of their spouses. I suspect most of the LBSes on here do honor loving, caring honorable people, people like the person they were once married to before that person went into a crisis.

[Airmid]

MyBrainIsBroken -
I have to agree with you.  My H wasn't a bad ass before he got infected with the MLC virus.  In fact the "virus" has made him almost unrecognizable.

I read this - and resonated with it in the book - "Runaway Husbands". Prior to the BD my H was a model citizen and life partner.

Hallmarks of Wife Abandonment Syndrome
1 Prior to the separation, the husband had seemed to be an
 attentive, emotionally engaged spouse, looked upon by his wife
 as honest and trustworthy.
2 The husband had never said that he was unhappy or thinking of
 leaving the marriage, and the wife believed herself to be in a
 secure relationship.
3 The husband typically blurts out the news that the marriage
 is over out-of-the-blue in the middle of a mundane domestic
 conversation.
4 Reasons given for his decision are nonsensical, exaggerated, trivial
 or fraudulent.
5 By the time the husband reveals his intentions to his wife, the
 end of the marriage is already a fait accompli, and he often
 moves out quickly.
6 The husband’s behavior changes radically, so much so that it
 seems to his wife that he has become a cruel and vindictive
 stranger.
7 The husband shows no remorse; rather, he blames his wife and
 may describe himself as the victim.
8 In almost all cases, the husband had been having an affair. He
 typically moves in with his girlfriend.
9 The husband makes no attempt to help his wife, either financially
 or emotionally, as if all positive regard for her has been suddenly
 distinguished.
10 Systematically devaluing his wife and the marriage, the husband
 denies what he had previously described as positive aspects of the
 couple’s joint history.