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#40: July 24, 2015, 08:07:03 AM
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To love oneself is the beginning of a life-long romance.           Oscar Wilde


"The heights by great men reached and kept, were not attained by sudden flight, but they, while their companions slept, were toiling upward in the night."

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Re: Links/blogs/articles for us all to share 4
#41: July 24, 2015, 08:57:31 AM
Thundarr,

She just may have something there.  Both my X's father and step father were awful men but neither of them cheated.  My X (so far) as not cheated.

My first H's father cheated and so did he.
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#42: July 24, 2015, 09:47:30 AM
Crazy's family all were/are a bunch of cheaters

Mom, Step father, both brothers multiple times.

My three rules for future relationships

1. I or me statements - bub bye
2. Cheating in past - See ya
3. Control of intimacy/sex - Find some other sap to pull that crap on.

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#43: July 24, 2015, 11:55:54 PM
Thanks Tsunami - very interesting blog and reassuring for newbies who might doubt the information they're given from time to time.
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#44: September 13, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
Hi All

Found this article very interesting as i still ponder why i need my ex to be unhappy with OW and how he could move on without any real empathy or sorrow for what we had.

After reading this article i guess you could say i found another piece to this infinite jigsaw puzzle called life and how we as LBs's can move on from our need to find those evasive answers.

I hope this helps you too.

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Why Good Things Happen To Bad People

Posted: 11/11/2011 7:08 pm EST Updated: 01/21/2012 5:12 am EST

"To he who is right in mind, he can do all the wrong things and it will still turn out right. To she who is wrong in mind, she can do all the right things and it will still turn out wrong."

As we watch the Wall Street rich get richer (many of whom created our economic crisis) while honest, hard-working people get poorer, a question naturally arises:

"Why do good things happen to bad people -- and so many bad things happen to good people?"

It sometimes feels like we're living in a perpetual opposite day, where "Love yourself not your neighbor" seems to be the golden rule and "Take and you shall receive" appears to be the principle of abundance. In the self-help/spiritual arena, the pain is felt even more acutely; where's karma, the law of cause and effect, the law of attraction? if you're a good human being, good stuff is supposed to happen to you, right?

Wrong.

It's a common misunderstanding to believe that "human goodness" leads to the experience of human good. In fact, that's not always -- or even often -- the case.

Here is the real principle of life: Consciousness is cause.

It's not so much the actions we take, but the consciousness behind them, that determines our experience. If a greedy person believes they're worthy or capable of creating wealth, they'll create it. If a generous and kind person doesn't feel worthy or abundant, they'll end up a broke do-gooder.

It's not personal, it's principle.

For every area of our life, we have certain set-points. For example, we might feel capable and confident with our work -- and hold a strong self-image about it -- but simultaneously harbor a limited identity and belief system around wealth. This can create an experience where we do great work, receive abundant kudos and are still underpaid. Or if we manage to increase our paycheck, our expenses increase with it -- making us broke at a higher income bracket!

This can also show up in the area of health. A person can do all the right things, eat all the right foods and still end up getting sick -- while another person eats whatever they want and hardly has a down day in their life. Don't you just hate those people?!

Some would argue that this is about genetics. But the latest discoveries in epigenetics reveal that genes don't control our body, the environment of the cell does. And what controls the environment of our cells?

Our consciousness.

This has been further shown in the science of psychoneuroimmunology, which explains how our thoughts become chemical and electrical impulses in our body, forming a biological alphabet that sends commands to our cells. Thoughts become things. Our biography becomes our biology.

Our consciousness is the cause of our reality.

If we take a deeper look at the do-gooder, striving to change the world for the better -- but getting short-changed themselves -- we'll find a belief system of limitation and fear. The inner talk might sound something like "life is hard, people are unfairly treated, things are unjust... " And that is the kind of life they experience, regardless of how much they "fight the good fight."

We don't get what we want -- or even what we pray for -- we get what we are in consciousness. Life is not fair, it's lawful. When a person eats a healthy meal, but underneath it is motivated by fear or self-loathing, the law of consciousness sees a fearful, self-loathing person and magnifies that, drawing more of that to them.

The universe is blind to your actions but acutely aware of the thoughts behind them.

This isn't to say that actions aren't important. Action is crucial to creation. As the saying goes, "Faith without works is dead." But the reverse is also true: "Works without faith are dead." By all means, act from your highest standard of good. But be sure to align yourself with an equally high state of consciousness.

If you find yourself saving money out of fear of loss, shift that perspective so you're saving from a state of inspiration and abundance -- you're saving "for" something, like financial freedom or a new house, rather than saving "from" something, like the fear of financial ruin or losing your house.

This week, pay closer attention to the consciousness behind your actions. Notice when what you say matches what you're thinking and feeling and when it doesn't. Become aware of when your actions are in alignment with your deeper beliefs and when they contradict them.

Take some time to journal about the beliefs, self-talk and emotions behind the key areas of your life -- particularly the ones where you're experiencing challenges. At the end of the week, review this. You'll discover that the picture you're seeing outside is a reflection -- if only faintly -- of the mental/emotional picture you're living inside. You'll also start to see the gap between what you're trying to create -- the actions you're taking -- and what you're really creating with your thoughts, feelings and mental images.

The awareness of this gap is the beginning of real change. Set the intention to close that gap. Work with this material daily. And as your thoughts, feelings, words and actions become in integrity with your highest vision, you'll become one of the "good people" who has good things happening... and you'll be unstoppable.

Until next time, Stay Inspired!

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Re: Links/blogs/articles for us all to share 4
#45: September 13, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Don't be offended, but that article in my humble opinion is bull crap. To all people happens good, bad things. Point is what person is kin to record and remember. As Buddhism said good and bad is just aberration of something normal or if You like middle path. Each happening always have good and bad things in it, because individual are not cut off from the world. Any action have reaction same intensity and opposite force. Any object on light have shadow. Point is that One should embrace what happens and should not be judgmental at all. What is good and what is bad after all ?

Also optimists expect in majority future pending events something good which have no foundation in reality. So, they should be disappointed all the time after event happens. In other hand pessimists should be happy because odds for happening something better than they expect are big.
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#46: September 14, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
Hi Albatross

No offence taken.  When the person you loved most in this world tears your heart out and causes you unimaginable pain you build a resilience where nothing anyone ever says or does to you again can ever compare to that which was done.  When you have survived that pain and come out the other side you get to realise that whatever anyone says or does whether its loving or hateful is a reflection of that person's state of mind and has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Wasn't it Shakespeare who said "there is no good or bad in this world, no right or wrong only judging makes it so" .  Anyway - the article - while it has a misleading title is not really referring to good and bad but rather to our state of mind/consciousness and so as an LBS i question my state of mind and what my intentions are - hence the article.  I think this article falls very much in line with the Buddhist philosophy of the middle way - of right doing and right thinking - it just expresses this middle way in a different way.  The essence of this article lies in this quote

"Our consciousness is the cause of our reality" - very much a Buddhist teaching

So my question is what reality are we as the LBS creating in order to appease our pain - what justifications are we giving ourselves to excuse our pain and to excuse our sense of justice?

I think this article highlights that we should start thinking differently - because as long as we remain in this trap of figuring out the MLCer we will not resolve our own suffering.  We often distract ourselves from knowing ourselves by looking to understand the unreasonable, looking to understand the MLCers who have long moved on.  We are often stuck in the past, focusing on the MLCer and we fail to live in the moment and recognise that we are worthy of happiness.  That i feel is the intention behind this article.  The intention to share this article was to help LBS's move on and take courage as they find a new way of thinking and a new way of being in the world.


Are you not just sick and tired of focusing on the MLCer?  Don't we just want to put this behind us and move forward with joy in our hearts?

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#47: September 14, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
I agree with a lot of what you've said. And I believe thought holds a LOT of power. I've seen that work in my life.

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Are you not just sick and tired of focusing on the MLCer?  Don't we just want to put this behind us and move forward with joy in our hearts?

Not everyone has this at the center of their lives, in all fairness. The repercussions of it are sometimes felt on a daily basis (those of us left with financial problems, though with clingers, those with shared custody). But I do believe that no matter what, we can have joy. In the middle of any storm, we can center ourselves and understand that we are not the storm - that we are going through it, but that it does not define us.

There are many roads to peace. For some it is spiritual and centering ourselves on this very thing. For some, scientific knowledge, psychological study, etc. will be the thing that gives us the peace that this truly "is not about us." We all get there in our own way. :)
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#48: September 15, 2015, 03:05:54 AM
Hi R2T

I agree we do get there in our own way as long as we get there.  The last question i posed was more for my sake because i am tired of the focus being on the MLCer like everyone else my thoughts often veer in his direction and i am tired of it.  I guess that is why i am now searching for artciles like the one i posted because i hope to one day fully place the focus on myself and the people in my life who are honest and sincere, even if the MLCer is still to some extend physically present in my life.

I guess in my journey i am done - i no  longer want to know why or how could he or is he happy with ow or does ow make him miserable - i just don't care any more and i hate the fact that at times when i become aware of my thoughts i notice they have veered in his direction.  He has moved on and so should i which for me includes refocusing my thoughts when i realise they have veered towards him.

i guess like everyone else i am expressing my perspective - a good thing we all are different or the world would be a boring place.  I do wish all on this forum that they eventually find peace and love. 

Speaking of which the other day while driving down a very familiar road that was home to my memories of ex and i and happier times i caught myself thinking of him and realised that i no longer carry any pain or grief over loosing him.  I realised the only emotions i still had to work through was my anger and to a large extent my indifference and absolute inability to trust anything he ever said or did or still says and does.

anyway - its all good whatever we do, whatever we say as long as it comes from a place of sincere intention - thats all we can do :)
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#49: September 15, 2015, 05:36:58 AM
I can speak from my personal experience only. I love my wife what she were before crisis, I always loved her and I will always love her. But that person does not exists anymore. I feel sad for her and love her as any other human being on this planet. No more, no less.

Point is that part of my self is she, when You live with someone good, nice life 25 years, have family, kids, home, mutual friends and all of that fall apart, You have to be broken FOREVER. Why ? Because human being is very complicated, there is not only ego, consciousness, there is soul, there is subconsciousness, both of that is not reachable by ratio. Jung said it is possible but it is long and very hard process.

You cannot simply rip off all those memories, emotions. Part of Your psyche is Your spouse psyche. Same goes with them. It is like You survive huge accident and you survive, but Your body is severely damaged and would never fully recovered, your body is changed permanently, and Yes You become impaired physically. You can recover, but never completely. Your body and health would never be the same. It is just metaphor what happening to our psyche after MLC of our spouse.
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