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Off-Topic Re: Election thread #4
#50: February 14, 2017, 10:06:02 PM
Thundarr,

If you do not want refugees, and all these "very dangerous" people into our country, please stop supporting politicians that enable and propagate wars around the globe. Instead of banning these people from coming to our country, we should pay hefty and just restitution to the people of Iraq, and Syria, both countries were effectively destroyed by our tax payers moneys. ISIS and other terrorist organizations are directly financed by the US, under the cover of moderate Syrian opposition. Assad is not a sweet heart, but it is not our job to police the World. The goal of this war is not to establish democracy and human rights in Syria, it is to change Assad with someone who can cut deals with Saudi Arabia and Turkey in building oil pipelines, which will thwart Russian geopolitical interests in the region. You do not want refugees, guess what you do not enable and support wars that created these refugees.   American ignorant arrogance has not limits, truly.

 And if the purpose of this ban was to really stop the dangerous people from coming to our country, then the first country on this list should have been Saudi Arabia, the country that finances and propagates jihad, and all sorts of religion-based extremism, followed by Pakistan, and Turkey.

Concerning the so-called wall. Do you know that we have had net negative immigration from Mexico. Meaning there are more people leaving the US than coming. The ones that crossed the boarder are already in the US, so the wall is nothing but appealing to frightened and uninformed base. Moreover there is modern infrared and drone technology that does the job very well, without of course the propaganda factor of the wall. If Mr. Trump wants to fight illegal immigration he should start managing demand side of the problem, created by corporate America, who he represents.

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Re: Election thread #4
#51: February 15, 2017, 06:48:27 AM
I received an email this morning from a local paper saying that Russian spy ships were spotted not too far away from me.

This makes me uncomfortable. What is it Russia is looking for? Haven't they done enough damage to us by altering election results?

In a way, I feel sorry for Trump. I feel he was used/is being used by Putin for some reason and endangering American security inadvertently, unknowingly.

What could be going on?
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Re: Election thread #4
#52: February 15, 2017, 06:54:37 AM
I received an email this morning from a local paper saying that Russian spy ships were spotted not too far away from me.

This makes me uncomfortable. What is it Russia is looking for? Haven't they done enough damage to us by altering election results?

In a way, I feel sorry for Trump. I feel he was used/is being used by Putin for some reason and endangering American security inadvertently, unknowingly.

What could be going on?
I think they are testing Trump and they might be in for a rude awakening.

I believe that he will defend you and our country.

Lets see what happens.
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Re: Election thread #4
#53: February 15, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
I would certainly hope so.   ???

I would hope any president would defend our country. 
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Re: Election thread #4
#54: February 15, 2017, 09:37:41 AM
Old Pilot,

They are not testing Trump, they already tested him, and he passed, Putin's  test. Yesterday, he said that he does not see any problem with Flynn talking to Russians, which I am sure he endorsed. His Secretary of State, Tyllerson, is Putin's friend too and proudly carries his Friendship medal, awarded by him.
And all the people that voted for him have hope against all hopes that he will protect America. I would not trust my gold fish with Trump, much less our security. It is really frightening to think that this person has an access to nuclear codes.
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Re: Election thread #4
#55: February 15, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
Elegance,

You seriously feel sorry for Trump and the clowns around him for being used by Putin? Are we back to kindergarden? He is the President of the most powerful country in the World, his surroundings were/have been talking to Russian intelligence for a long time, he dealt with the Russian oligarchs, etc, etc. You sound like our MLC ers, who did not do anything, they were used and abused. It is time for all of us to take a sobering view. You know what Trump's pronouncements were Vis.a Vis NATO, common defense, European allies, Japan's defense, One China policy, etc, etc. We are not having a play date with the pal next door. These are very serious and complex issues, which Trump and his surroundings have no capacity to grasp, much less deal with in a competent manner. Was somebody holding a gun to Flynn's head telling him to repeatedly call Russian ambassador and discuss sanctions? He is a grown man, general, statesman, who among other things also have Top Secret clearance with polygraph. Just today Trump told that Flynn is unjustly targeted by media, and that the intelligence leaks are unpatriotic. Please, sorry for Trump. Enough.
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Re: Election thread #4
#56: February 16, 2017, 10:33:56 AM
Nothing to do with Trump news yet,

Probable Cause To Charge Chris Christie In Bridgegate, Judge Rules

http://patch.com/new-jersey/mendham-chester/probable-cause-charge-chris-christie-bridgegate-judge-rules


karmirtsaghik,

I normally just don't reply to an argument, yet I feel my words were taken out of context which is understandable and happens fairly often online.

These are the times in Politics that no one should just look away. Get involved no matter where you stand.

Saw a congresswoman last night on tv who said Trump's actions were reminiscent of Nixon and they are looking at impeachment.

Let's see what happens.
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Re: Election thread #4
#57: February 16, 2017, 11:46:07 AM
Just heard on TV Trump say a new immigration order is coming next week.

Sigh, when will he figure it out?

Do I personally need to send the US Constitution to him?

Will he really have to be humiliated once again to finally get it?
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Re: Election thread #4
#58: February 16, 2017, 01:25:43 PM
Trump Jokes About Blowing Up Russian Spy Ship Spotted Off Connecticut Coast

http://patch.com/connecticut/groton/russian-spy-ship-no-longer-30-miles-groton-sub-base-still-east-coast-waters-ct

I don't know yet is this really wise? All this nonsense about keeping innocent people out of the country yet he toys with a USA 'enemy'?

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Re: Election thread #4
#59: February 16, 2017, 05:19:23 PM
Vice Admiral Robert Harward, has turned down the offer to be National Security Advisor, a senior White House official said on Thursday.

Very, very wise man.

Distance yourself from "the Donald" and his crazies.
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