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OP: April 29, 2017, 07:36:27 PM
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Re: Anyone else have a vanisher? 2
#1: April 29, 2017, 09:22:11 PM
Oh I must have gotten lost. I thought this was a thread about vanishers.

Nope... it's the elegance show. Again.  ::)

Via nah

Um all MLCers go thought this, doesn't matter what type. 'Elegance show'? again? what does that mean nah?  Do I get paid?

I'm trying to help others who might need it with information they might not have seen. If you are not interested in learning why not just read the next post?

Hi  Rossbren,

Here are the articles:

https://thestagesandlessonsofmidlife.org/the-children-of-the-mid-lifers-issues/

https://thestagesandlessonsofmidlife.org/a-deeper-look-at-the-children-of-the-mid-lifers-issues/

Let me know if you can't read them.

An educated guess about a vanisher, going through all I posted is just like all other MLCers, yet might be too embarrassed,  too scared, might be feeling too guilty for their actions, so as a child they would run away from home.





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Re: Anyone else have a vanisher? 2
#2: April 29, 2017, 10:35:58 PM
Hi all,
I just wrote this loooong reply about alcohol and it (I did) delete it.

Any way, This was just a reply to the one who said; my husband don't drink. It might very well be that way but my husband during our 30 years did not drink either but he is a drinker now, the last 6 months I spent with him he drank wine like it was Kool aid (do you still have that in the US? Loved it as a kid  ;D I have at least 3-4 mlc/depressed males that I know of, now that I understand male depression, that drinks amounts that is way way over what they use to drink, one is an alcoholic but the interesting thing is that they can't put 2+2 together.

It's "common knowledge" that depressed men turns to sex, gambling, risky sports and alcohol when they are depressed. Don't ask me why please! "A man suffering from depression may exhibit escapist or risky behavior such as pursuing dangerous sports, driving recklessly, or engaging in unsafe sex. You might drink too much, abuse drugs, or gamble compulsively."

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/depression/depression-in-men.htm

With out any knowledge about why some become more vanisher than others. My own father vanished for 5-6 years when I was 16 and I have not seen or spoken to my own husband since october 2014 (their "problem" has to be me hasn't it since I'm the common denominator  ::). Not even a bleep on the radar!  ;D If this is because they are a shamed of them selves, see me as the "cause" of their problems (who does that with a 16yo) I have no idea, I find it sick and my own "medical" term is: they are some "bat-sh*t-crazy-f*cked-up-people", living in some fantasy world, who thinks someone else has to clean up their mess  :o

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#3: April 29, 2017, 10:49:29 PM
I guess I would never, and never have, commented on a Vanisher's thread with any advice because I didn't have a Vanisher.

I have no experience with them.  I can only give advice about things I have experienced.

Maybe people with that type of experience can relate to this and can give advise, or at least share their experiences.

The rest of us can only guess.



 





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A quote from a recovered MLCer: 
"From my experience if my H had let me go a long time ago, and stop pressuring me, begging, and pleading and just let go I possibly would have experienced my awakening sooner than I did."

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Re: Anyone else have a vanisher? 2
#4: April 29, 2017, 10:51:29 PM
Thanks Passi, interesting read. 

You are definitely not the common denominator lol.  Don't ever think that...maybe Mlcers are just attracted to you or vice Versace, definitely not the blame ❤️.

Would you mind sharing your fathers story with us all.  With everything that you can recall. I would love to hear this story.  I am assuming he snapped out of Mlc because you mention the 5-6 year period.
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Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

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Re: Anyone else have a vanisher? 2
#5: April 29, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
I guess I would never, and never have, commented on a Vanisher's thread with any advice because I didn't have a Vanisher.

I have no experience with them.  I can only give advice about things I have experienced.

Maybe people with that type of experience can relate to this and can give advise, or at least share their experiences.

The rest of us can only guess.



Thanks Thunder

I am so glad Bluerose started this initial thread.  Having a Vanisher myself I searched everywhere for postings and information about Vanishers with little results.  The LBS's have been an absolute godsend, ironically their stories are also my story.  I love Nah's postings, and love that her MLCer is showing signs of leaving his tunnel...although it might be too late for him...though deep down I have a gut feeling that I can't shift...sorry Nah.  I love reading Bluerose's postings, her timeframe is close to mine. 

All of these fellow vanishee LBS's -you have helped me in my journey with your stories - Bluerose, Nah, Still Half Full, Passiflora, PooWoo, Savoir Faire, 1Phoenix, Beyonddone, heroIam, living with hope, Snowdrop, Sparklestar, Hope Faith Love, MsMedfly, Shocked, Stillbaffled just to name a few.  ❤️THANKYOU❤️

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« Last Edit: April 30, 2017, 12:08:28 AM by Rossbren »
Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

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Re: Anyone else have a vanisher? 2
#6: April 30, 2017, 12:20:18 AM
OK Ross and the rest,
I will try and keep it short but if not don't complain about the length.  ;D

1980 My mum had an affair with her coworker (pretty pathetic she sawing teacher OM teacher in wood/metal classes). I was sent to the US?! during the first "turmoil period". When I returned to my country "their" divorce battle and custody battle over me started. My father was severely depressed (I didn't know what this was but he was MORE than "bat-sh*t-crazy". Tried to strangle my mother one time, cut the tires on her car, tried to hang himself (ended up in a mental hospital for a period of time) autumn 1980 was the last time I saw him. He turned to alcohol during this time, acted out with lots and lots of women, even became not "appropriate" sexual towards me in different ways.

1985 or 86, He reached out and wanted to meet me and my now xh. I met husband -83, my mums "affair-relationship" ended -83 or -84. We was invited to his apt. but the whole situation felt really awkward. I have been carrying a memory about that meeting that he treated me as I was still 16 and when I have told people about this meeting I have always returned to how strange it was that he did not see me as a 21 or 22 year old. I only meet with him a couple of times cause he was so ego-centric and the "relationship" he wanted was so "one-sided". No remorse, no nothing. I don't know the number of women he have had during this period but A LOT.

After this short period I didn't (my husband supported me) want anything to do with him. I got 2 older brothers and their relationship with him was also sporadic a little bit more/better when my brothers got kids. My father never meet my kids. In the middle of the 90th he shoot one woman, who wanted to leave him, with an air gun. Spent some time in jail. During this time he sent some letters to me, with money to buy my kids presents. What I remember was that even if he was convicted for this crime, sat in jail, it was still the woman's fault for wanting to leave him.  :o

He died -06 or -07, alone, woman #38 or #68 don't know was also gone. During all these years from -85/86 until -06/07 he "hoovered", tried to contact, did call (I hung up) once every 5 years or so. In the end he used his money and summer house to try to bribe us children. If we (children) only came we would get this or that. Still never left the "tunnel" or had an awakening, this is my interpretation maybe he had but I'm not an psychiatrist. Never any "shown" remorse.

Another interesting part is that 3 years ago my oldest son meet his gf. I'm very close now to her parents and grandparents. About 2 years ago her grandparent asked me if I knew a couple by the name of XX. I remember the names from my childhood but I have not meet with these people in 40 years or so. Any way, this couple when they heard that the grandparents grand daughter was living with my son, they know a lot about my son, that I was his mother and that my father was his grandparent. They had full knowledge of all my sons sport achievements etc. So my father did during the rest of his life, "stalk" me/our family/my kids without us knowing and talked at least to this couple about us.

Conclusion, I think in some way he regretted what he had "done" and in some way not, maybe it was pride or shame or I don't know. My mum did apologize (10 years or so after her affair) half hearted, that she "screwed" up my teenage years. She has not in actions shown this in any way, only words. She is now a bitter, narcissistic old woman, not much friends. I think she had one short relationship after her affair in -84/85 but (what I know of) no other man after that. She was the one who got dumped from the OM.

So sorry for the loooong vanishing story of my father.
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#9: April 30, 2017, 03:51:32 AM
Passi - i am so sorry.  Your story is just very very sad.  And here you are again being subjected to more pain.  Life just really sucks most times
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Me 47
Him 47
OW 32
Married - 20 years
Together - 28 years
BD - Nov 2014 - reason for affair said I controlled his life, wore flannelette pyjama pants to bed and drove our family car 🤔
Moved in with Young OW and her 2 kids Jan 2015
Total Vanisher
Divorced Sept 2016
S21, S17, S16 (autism), D14

🌹🌹Let's be real...Bren is the only one who can do Bren. I'm the best Bren on the planet. Trying to turn a skank into a Bren? That will surely end in disappointment, if it hasn't already.🌹🌹

❤❤Family isn't an important thing.  IT IS EVERYTHING!! ❤❤



Vanished Return Stories Thread #1 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9088.0;all
Vanisher Return Stories Link Thread #2 - https://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9378.new#new

 

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