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#70: September 21, 2024, 09:24:38 AM
….filed for spousal support and made appts for financial help till I get up on my feet!

…I have a therapist I see regularly but I think I need psychiatrist too. I think I need something for depression.

…I start a new job on Monday….

I know you probably don’t feel very brave right now, but these are all tremendously brave things given how things are. It takes real courage to look s$itty s$it in the eye and even admit how s$itty it is, let alone take action.

And yeah, as the others said - you’re not crazy, you’re just traumatised, afraid and overwhelmed. Our fight/flight/freeze system does some wacky stuff when we are….mine was a doozy. So please be reassured that you are normal for an abnormal situation - get the help you need to get through it, but please don’t label yourself as permanently crazy xxx
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#71: October 01, 2024, 10:01:50 AM
Im in a self first mode here! But I sm wondering if others have seen a mean or vindictive side to spouse. Just the cutting me off and he took pictures off wall of him and my daughter and deleted a chalk message I had inside his dart board! He left behind only things I got him like recent cards and stockings stuffers. I don’t even know what to think !! Its like a tantrum! He didn’t leave those new air pods though I got him did he??? Lol

I think the one thing about my spouse when thinking in terms of mlc he is different than many. Mine wont talk to me but wont block me either! My only has come to the house when he knew I was in hospital. He wont face me for some reason. He never said anything like I love you but im not in love with you or even does alot of what I have read these MLCers do. But he definitely isnt same guy he was he completely flipped. As much as his actions show hate that is how much he loved me before this health crisis he had. They do say there is a thin line between love and hate.

Im still standing but I am just starting to pull myself out of the seriously depressed stage and pick myself up. I miss him terribly.  Some days though I ponder if its mlc though. I guess all husbands are different but mine seems to be ok with his job  I guess I thought hed be spinning and i was hoping hed lose his job!! Thats just because he has allowed it to be first priority! Anyway just needed to vent! I guess hes a vanisher
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#72: October 01, 2024, 12:07:46 PM
It's really good to read your post Allie - you seem like you are in a much better place.

What you write about your H, it is all quite classic crisis behaviour from what I have read and encountered in RL. I don't know if that is reassuring or not. I guess it is what it is. It's highly unlikely that your H 'hates' you - that doesn't add up - it can't just happen over night, without a serious of heinous events and crimes on your part leading up to it, right? I think the crisis is in play a lot longer than we realise and then some sort of tipping point and they implode. But a switch from loving to hating? That's a crisis signifier IMO.  This is not a platitude - he does not (cannot) hate you, he hates himself. But that is pretty awful too, I think. I've always thought, with what you wrote in your first post, that something with your H's health issues triggered unbearable shame in him. So unbearable he cannot look at it and he has projected it onto you. It's grossly unfair and not your fault, but IMO, this is the only way he can deal with it.  It seems so extreme that he has to reject the personal reminders of you (those earbuds - probably not so personal - and nice too :) ) He needs to figure himself out and he will need a lot of time and space to do this. You cannot help him at the moment alas.

I suppose the point is, that you are suffering from his irrational actions, however you slice it. And I, for one, am glad you are focusing on you.
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#73: October 01, 2024, 12:53:27 PM
I agree with KayDee.
My former h, at least for the first couple of years as I recall, did not block me - he just refused to interact with me or reply to any messages from me. Until/unless HE had a passing moment when he wanted to talk to ME for some reason….and then he expected a pretty speedy response lol. In fact, he once sent the police round to my house bc I had not replied to his sadz (and then increasingly angry) text messages that he missed me and wanted to talk within a 36 hour period (I’d gone away for the weekend and forgotten my phone) - the same chap who once ignored me, my lawyer and his lawyer for over 3 months. Complete crickets, no response at all - my lawyer even asked me if there was any possibility he’d left the country or killed himself…..

And my then h left pretty much everything behind too - took his car, laptop etc - but left even old mementoes from his life before me, all the mementoes/ photos etc of our shared life, even his cat lol.

It’s not normal, but it’s pretty normal for MLC folks imho.
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T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
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#74: October 01, 2024, 02:12:08 PM
Thank you both!! I am definitely turning a corner as my will to fight for myself is back! Im so hurt by him cutting me off and etc but I try to remember its not him its this MLC monster! Then today I question is it mlc??? Its a process on understanding too!
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#75: January 07, 2025, 03:37:17 PM
Haven’t posted in awhile but nothing much to update! He hasn’t spoken to me still! Its been 7 mths since he left a d 6 mths since he said he wanted a D! Im still struggling! I have yet to find there is anyone else but I did recently see he started added old friends to his fb. He had a fb since aug (he always claimed to hate fb) but he only had like 9 friends all work ppl! Needless to say just  recently like a week ago he added ppl from his past military days and school days! Someone told me reconnecting with ppl he hasn’t talked with is common in mlc. Anyone have any idea on this? I did text him for xmas but he didn’t respond. He might have me blocked but I don’t know.
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#76: January 08, 2025, 02:14:30 AM
How’s the new job going, Allie? And are you getting the legal support you need? How are other things going? How’s your daughter?

I’m going to encourage you to stop looking at FB and trying to read too much into it. Not a criticism- we’ve all done something like that at a similar stage. But it’s rarely helpful and rarely useful; tbh it usually raises more questions than it answers, just like you posed here. It’s a very natural and normal trauma response though…our brains instinctively feel that if we could just figure it out somehow, we will feel better or know what to do. Or we hunt for signs that seem encouraging or comforting bc we want our pain to stop. So normal, so it’s important to be kind to yourself about those impulses at the same time as being as clear eyed as we can be about the real limited benefits of it. Even more important if - like you, like me - you have been essentially ghosted after a long marriage. For most normal humans, that’s a pretty profound psychological wound and it causes some brain glitches for a while in even the most emotionally healthy of us.

The important data you have is that - although it’s incomprehensible to you - your h is not there, that he is not communicating with you and (I think) he has initiated a legal process. That may or may not change, but for the moment, that is how it is and all you can do is try to deal with that current reality the best you can. What your h is doing on FB or elsewhere does not change that current reality and one can get distracted from what is necessary for your own survival by running down those cheerless tunnels in search of answers that are not there. We learn, slowly usually, to stop hunting for answers that don’t come or trying to guess what someone who has ghosted us is thinking. But it is a hard and odd process after a shared life of decades, I know. It is hard to live with big ‘I don’t knows’ about important parts of your own life.

I found - and it took me a good while - that it was helpful when I found my head having all those circular mental conversations to say to myself ‘well, I just don’t know’. That was honest and somehow with practice it helped me put the questions to one side temporarily and get on either side my day.

At a high level and put simply, we humans do what we do usually bc it either makes us feel better in the moment or helps us avoid something we think might make us feel bad. Not always, but often. And particularly if our emotions are running the show. Probably as true for the MLCer as for we LBS. So, the most simple and straightforward reason why our ex/spouses ghost us imho is not bc they hate us…it’s not about us at all…it’s bc for them, for reasons beyond our comprehension, they find it easier than the alternative. That isn’t right and it isn’t fair, and it causes profound damage, but that’s how we humans sometimes roll when life gets difficult. That’s how they have decided to deal with the situation as they see it. And often, of course, if there is an ow/on in the mix, that’s a good short-term distraction along with other stuff like revisiting past friendships or new material stuff….it’s all about trying to make oneself feel better or avoiding things that make you feel worse.

The challenge as an LBS - bc we are often driven by a similar need - is to find the healthiest and most constructive ways we can to do the same. And imho part of that is reaching a point where you can accept that just as their crisis is not about you, your healing is not about them. Tough to do after a long shared life, I know, but with time it becomes easier to see that you are not the problem or the solution, and vice versa. But that kind of acceptance involves a kind of loss too, doesn’t it? And that hurts like a MF….which is why our brains spin round for a while looking for signs or meaning that might be comforting.

I am so sorry that this awful thing has happened to you and that your h has chosen to deal with it the way he has. Nothing easy about it, as we all know, and no simple fixes that we can offer. All we can say from experience is that it is possible to get to the other side of it, even if it feels like it is not and even if you can’t see what the other side looks like yet. This too shall pass and you just have to keep slogging it out day by day until it does; your job is just to keep going for long enough to see it, my friend. But we know it will come bc that’s how life tends to work. And why it’s so important to focus on the small things of the day that might make you feel 1% better and try to avoid the things that experience tells you make you feel any percentage worse.

Is there hope for your marriage? Idk. But there’s hope for your future regardless and that’s worth holding onto. Xxx

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« Last Edit: January 08, 2025, 03:04:21 AM by Treasur »
T: 18  M: 12 (at BD) No kids.
H diagnosed with severe depression Oct 15. BD May 16. OW since April 16, maybe earlier. Silent vanisher mostly.
Divorced April 18. XH married ow 6 weeks later.


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#77: January 08, 2025, 04:44:57 AM
I think someone should invent a medical alert system that warns loved ones and professionals when a middle aged person picks up FB in earnest. Yes, it is common. Why? he is going backwards to his youth, it is an easy way to superficially connect, he is lonely?  For some, it is a a big old shop window that promotes 'look how great my life is'. It's all pretty fake and you can't read anything into it.


I found - and it took me a good while - that it was helpful when I found my head having all those circular mental conversations to say to myself ‘well, I just don’t know’. That was honest and somehow with practice it helped me put the questions to one side temporarily and get on either side my day.

My version of this, the circular hamster brained WHYS, was 'because it's about him'. When you think about it, this kind of extreme behaviour, from 100 to zero after decades of togetherness, it cannot be about you. It can only be about him. Hard as it is, you have to let him get on with it. He will either figure it out (that he is self-destructive) or he won't. Keep turning those corners Allie. The path to recovery is, in my experience, not a straight-line, but as long as you notice small, positive changes in you, you are moving forward.
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#78: January 12, 2025, 07:09:25 PM
Thank you both! My new job is great!!! I unfortunately lost my kitty of 20 years after Thanksgiving and that was hard because then I was officially alone here! So I adopted two cats to help! I struggle with detaching still, though I am better. I wish I didn’t constantly think about him but I still do! I am going back to lawyer soon since I just got  the papers week before xmas.  In PA they must wait a year of separation first before a divorce can be granted so I guess I’m putting off lawyer because it’s painful! I know that helps nothing! My daughter still sees him but I haven’t seen her in months so its another sad situation! My mom took it upon herself to spread lies and half truths about me right after I was in hospital for a suicide attempt! Needless to say my daughter is now distant with me because she doesn’t know what to believe. I haven’t seen never had so many ppl kick me when Im down before! I spent Christmas alone. It wasn’t as bad as I thought but definitely not my preference.
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#79: January 12, 2025, 07:25:47 PM
I think a lot more people than we think can disappoint when we come into bad times. I certainly found my siblings tried very hard to not engage. My sister finally told me. “You have always been the one to handle all the issues in our family. I don’t know what to do when you now have an issue and it’s hard to see you in pain. “

So, just know sometimes it’s just people not having their own strength to deal with someone else's issues and has little to do with you.  You really are doing so good. I know the first 2 years were horrific for me. After 2 years it started slowly getting better and I felt each month that I was going to make it. Not happy it happened, but I would survive. I also was laid off from my job at the 2 year mark. Keep moving forward and just put all your focus on you!!!
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