[Standing in Patience]

Thundarr, I recently read an article that said last born children are more likely to divorce. I can't remember where I say it though. Bet you can find it if you "google" it. Last born and in mlc makes for a bad combination.

[Anjae]

How great, an article about Viktor Frankl. I really like his thought/ideas. Especially the one about if you still have hope, you survive.

But I see nothing wrong with being happy. The real happy = joy. Mr J was always a big giver, more than me, I think. His MLC self is his total opposite. And that is the most strange of things for me. 

[calamity]

There's nothing wrong with being happy, it is just when you pursue it you are doomed.

Good article FTT.  I'll have to research more on Frankl.

[Phoenix]

I highly recommend Man's Search for Meaning by Frankl. It definitely puts MLC in perspective.

Thanks for the article, FTT, and for the always great support.

Thinking of you,
Phoenix

[Trustandlove]

There's nothing wrong with being happy, it is just when you pursue it you are doomed. 

I completely agree that there is nothing wrong with being happy -- and would modify the above to say that when you have that as your primary goal, when you pursue it to the exclusion of other thing, that it doesn't work.

Say I feel happy with a new outfit, for example.  That's lovely -- and nothing at all wrong with that.  But if I then make having new outfits my primary goal it quickly goes sour. 

I think that meaning in life is also what we talk about and call joy here. 

[forthetrees]

Entropy is the natural course of events without an input of energy. Relationships and life require emotional and physical energy. MLC is what happens when the energy is not invested.

[LearningIamOk]

What an eye opening article. You are always finding really thought provoking and unusual info. Thank you for posting this.

[calamity]

CBC Podcast Say no to happiness from last year. http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2012/02/14/say-no-to-happiness-2/  I think in response to the 100's of books on Happiness.  2 hours but podcasts are great for journeys.

Guess I shouldn't have been so flippant when my h said, 'Is that all there is to life?' [born, reproduce, die].  I replied impatiently, 'yep'.  [no h, you can find your soulmate & live happily ever after...in Happyland].   

[kikki]

Thanks for the interesting read FTT. 
My H was very much a giver before his MLC hit. 

I see their endless search for 'happiness' as being a symptom of the crisis, not who they used to be.  A bit like the OW is. Yet another band aid fix that is going nowhere fast.

[Thundarr]

http://www.essence.com/2013/01/18/ask-dr-sherry-i-just-left-my-husband-now-what/?XID=OUTBRAIN_EE

This article absolutely pissed me off this morning.  This so-called "doctor" pretty much tells this woman to go have an MLC and gives her the "You go, girl!!" bull$hit that my XW and so many others get from society.  She is absolutely PRAISING this woman for breaking her marital vows and buys right into the stupid excuses of the woman's H being "controlling and mentally abusive."  As we all know, those accusations are unprovable and are most often used as excuses just for this very reason - so they don't actually have to PROVE their spouse did anything.  Again, absolutely disgusting!!