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#150: September 13, 2014, 03:51:33 PM
Excellent article. This has come up in my PTSD counselling as well as H's.
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#151: September 13, 2014, 04:03:16 PM
I firmly believe BD is when there are enormous changes in the brain of a MLCer.

What causes these changes?  As we've talked about on many occasions, genetics and FOO issues (environment) seems to play a part in how a child's brain becomes wired and how it handles stress, but I'm also reading now about the enormous difficulties we humans are having coping with the effects of environmental factors.

The effects of blue light from technology and radiation from air travel, cellphone, computer usage, wifi, modern offices etc  has on our biochemistry seems to be vast - changing the way the gut works (amongst other body systems), which directly affects the brain and our hormonal control systems.
Add the highly stressed lives people now live, the increase of sugar/carbs in their diets, and changes in our circadian rhythms, I wonder if this explains the increasing volume of people suffering the perfect storm as they age.

My own mum used to always say she wasn't surprised that my MLCer spun off due to his stressful work schedule, long distance plane travel, cellphone usage and use of computers for work etc.  My mother has always been a bit ahead of her time, and now it seems once again, the science might be catching up with her.

I know all MLCers are not caught up in high tech environments, but there are many that are.  For instance Anjae, Mr J with his DJing won't necessarily be doing his brain any favours by being in that nightclub environment with  a sea of man-made Electro Magnetic Fields from electrified music and performances.

I hold my breath every time my MLCer takes a very long haul flight. It's always uglier than usual for months afterwards.
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#152: September 13, 2014, 04:38:21 PM
Prior to the type of technology we have today you would have coal and smog. Think London back in the day. And there has been nuclear facilities all over the world for decades. Those, and many other factors, have long affected our biochemistry. In fact, pretty much everything affects our biochemistry.

And, of course, ambient, as in FOO, or at a later date. I'm not so certain all brain (and other) changes our MLCer suffered come from (or solely from) childhood. they could come from adolescence. Or from early adulthood. They could add to previous causes, or just come at one to those times.

I know all MLCers are not caught up in high tech environments, but there are many that are.  For instance Anjae, Mr J with his DJing won't necessarily be doing his brain any favours by being in that nightclub environment with  a sea of man-made Electro Magnetic Fields from electrified music and performances.

I'm positive that all that clubbing is not doing Mr J brain any favours. And not only because of the Electro Magnetic Fields from electrified music. There is also gigantic sleep deprivation (Mr J has a MLC day job. He often sleeps 5-3 hours). And often too hot room and until very recently, smoke filled.

Mr J brain, lungs, ears, liver (because of too much gin) are all suffering with his clubbing lifestyle.
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#153: September 13, 2014, 05:11:19 PM
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I'm not so certain all brain (and other) changes our MLCer suffered come from (or solely from) childhood. they could come from adolescence. Or from early adulthood. They could add to previous causes, or just come at one to those times.

I would agree with you, but there certainly seems to be an accumulative effect. 
An already stressed (non resilient brain) may not recognise further decline due to environment/lifestyle factors and may not seek help, for instance.
An already stressed brain doesn't handle further stress as well as a brain that wasn't exposed to that early stress. 
(this is where epigenetics comes in).

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There is also gigantic sleep deprivation (Mr J has a MLC day job. He often sleeps 5-3 hours)
This ties in exactly with the research I was reading about how incredibly disruptive to our bodies/minds any disruption to our normal circadian rhythm is(electric lights, technology where we stay up late receiving blue light, air travel which disrupts through jet lag - one direction around the earth is even more disruptive than going the other way around due to the earth's rotation.)

And yes - add further toxins which humans often think will help them to feel better - smoking, alcohol, poor diet etc - and it's not a recipe for wellness.
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#154: September 13, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
I would agree with you, but there certainly seems to be an accumulative effect. 
An already stressed (non resilient brain) may not recognise further decline due to environment/lifestyle factors and may not seek help, for instance.
An already stressed brain doesn't handle further stress as well as a brain that wasn't exposed to that early stress. 
(this is where epigenetics comes in).

True. But we do know if in every case the accumulation of stress stat in childhood or later. I'll use myself as an example. No childhood stress. But when was 13 many things changed and several stressful factors arrived.

And since, of course, it keep accumulating. Probably having its peak in the months right before and right after Mr J left. Maybe that is why I did not deal so great with things when Mr J. Usually I would I deal with things in a pragmatic, cool way. I did not.

My circadian rhythm has long been disrupted because I do night shifts. Now looking after grandmother, before because I prefer to work by night when there was peace and quiet.

But there is still a difference between being at home working at night and clubbing.

None of our MLCers is doing any good to their wellness. They a gigantic ball of stress coupled with a million other issues. If only they would calm down and stop the crazy replay behaviour.  ::)
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#155: September 13, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
H said recently : I just don't know what will make me relaxed, content, and happy. No matter what I can't find happiness.
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#156: September 13, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
H said recently : I just don't know what will make me relaxed, content, and happy. No matter what I can't find happiness.

Think it would require the depression to go and for your husband (and all our MLCers) to find meaning/purpose in their life. They are pretty much people adrift.
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#157: September 13, 2014, 06:11:36 PM
YES! Thank you Anjae..."people adrift" TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH...and their lives prove it!
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#158: September 14, 2014, 12:43:34 AM
This ties in exactly with the research I was reading about how incredibly disruptive to our bodies/minds any disruption to our normal circadian rhythm is(electric lights, technology where we stay up late receiving blue light, air travel which disrupts through jet lag - one direction around the earth is even more disruptive than going the other way around due to the earth's rotation.)

I remember reading nearly the same thing about travel across time zones being a trigger for bipolar manic episodes (Health Central, "Bipolar Disorder")
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Re: Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research
#159: September 14, 2014, 04:36:56 AM
This link explains why/how we all have bonded so deeply without even always being in physical proximity:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282473.php
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