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OP: August 23, 2013, 05:30:00 AM

Catch Me If You Can...
Avoiding Narcissists

By Amanda Somberg

You've seen them. They're everywhere: in the office, the classroom, down the street. They're charming, self-assured, the perfect catch. They know just how to talk to and seduce you, and when they ask for your number, you pinch yourself with glee at your good fortune.

They seem like the perfect boyfriend, and in the beginning, they are attentive, thoughtful, generous, and kind. You become enamored and are swept off your feet. Although you may hear murmurings from friends or family that he seems "too nice" or that they just "have a hunch about him," you brush aside their comments. You only have eyes for him, and in those eyes, he's "the one."

The relationship moves quickly, and he makes you feel chosen and special, as if the secrets he shares are only between you two. He seeks your sympathy, telling you woes about his hard life and the many people who have taken advantage of or hurt him. He might even speak disparagingly about his "crazy" ex-girlfriend or ex-wife, and you swallow the one-sided character assassination without question.

But for all of his perfect manners and perfect smile and perfectly attentive demeanor, this perfect catch hides a tremendous secret: Beneath his polished and smiling façade is a predator, the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He will turn on you only after you are "caught," either legally in a marriage or when he senses your heart has been surrendered. He will disguise his true nature until it's too late, and by then, you will have given up your dreams, your savings, your youth, and your heart to this man. You will have believed the flattery and promises of endless love until you are older, wiser, and emotionally or physically crushed by his controlling and abusive ways.

The secret he hides from everyone is his cruelty and coldness, which eventually transforms from subtle to overt psychological, verbal, and physical abuse. At home, he erupts with rage whenever you make the slightest suggestion or request, and he blames you or the children for all of his failures and problems. He's no longer kind but arrogant, and he's never, ever wrong. Our narcissist has no empathy or time for you or the children anymore, preferring instead to live a moody life of self-imposed exile succumbing to addictions such as work, alcohol, drugs, or affairs.

Once so seductive and attentive when you were dating, his demeanor becomes aloof and uncaring after you're trapped. Sex becomes a one-sided affair – if it was ever mutually satisfying to begin with. Other times, he becomes uninterested in sex for any reason, leaving you feeling frustrated and unwanted. As time progresses, he may even get you to participate in sexual acts that you feel ashamed or embarrassed about.

Eventually, the good times stop altogether, though he might tease you with an occasional "splurge" somewhere, or a genuine kindness. These arbitrary glimpses of the man you fell in love with will only serve to tighten the handcuffs which bind you to him. Much like the psychology of slot machines, these small, occasional payoffs will keep the unsuspecting gambler glued to her chair.

Eventually, you cannot deny the lies, which are second nature to this man, the wolf. He lied all along, but you didn't want to know it or couldn't see it before now. He plays mind games with you and your children, denying he's doing so. It's subtle at first but amazingly effective. You, destabilized and questioning your own sanity, are slowly being driven mad.

The abuse continues. It always does if you stay. He starts berating you for your cooking, your mothering skills, your appearance. Hitting, slapping, and punching are not far behind. By now, you see a pattern: to the world, they see his mask, but you must live with the man. With a sneer, he'll say "No one will ever believe a word you say."

You 're faced with an imposter who has hidden the money, isolated you from family and friends, and driven a wedge between you and your children. His explanations are rehearsed and twisted, painting you as the instigator, the psycho, the money-grubbing b!tc#. He is a formidable verbal foe with his credible and plausible explanations of every interaction you've ever had, and you find yourself on the losing end of every session with the couple's therapist or with well-meaning family members.

His attorney is just like him: smooth, slick... a crusader for his client. But the wolf doesn't care about you or your children, although he portrays himself as the long-suffering husband who throws up his hands and exclaims to others "Look at what I have to deal with."

The wolf only cares about one thing in his relationship with you, and it is winning. He will do everything in his power to destroy you in the process.j

When you turn to the court system for relief, there will be no help forthcoming. A judge will never believe you, the true victim of the wolf's controlling abuse. The wolf is polished, calm, unruffled. A pillar in the community. Although he's lying through his teeth, it's second nature to him, as he's been practicing it for years. You are either fragmented and depressed from the psychological and emotional abuse or enraged that this man is harming you and your children. Either way, you come across as exactly the crazed, paranoid harpy he has created.

The wolf gets away with all of this because his charisma, magnetism, and deceit sways judges, therapists, custody evaluators, and mediators. Emboldened by his success, he bullies and abuses you even more. And he'll never stop until you have paid dearly – so dearly – for leaving and rejecting him.

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It is tempting for lay people to think that this man is a figment of my imagination, but I assure you he's very real. Malignant narcissists and sociopaths prey upon the kindest and most tender women they can find, for they know these women will never suspect how evil and devious people can be. Women who fall for these men are good-hearted, slightly dependent and suggestible, and patently unable to see the sociopath until it's too late. They're willing to be groomed over time to accept responsibility for every problem that goes awry in the relationship, from the wolf being late to the wall being pummeled.

He always paints himself as the victim of evil-doers, crazy exes, maligned employees. Beware if you hear "the pity play" in your interactions or on dates. Nothing is ever their fault or responsibility and  you will soon find yourself on the receiving end of his "blame game."

Another clue is his lying. It is inconceivable to the average person how easily sociopaths lie, but they are true con men and can lie with impunity.

The third clue is the abuse. You know you're dealing with a malignant narcissist – a true sociopath with no conscience – when these behaviors start. He not only lies regularly, but begins to "gaslight" you, a form of psychological abuse named after the 1944 movie Gaslight (rent it!). This type of abuse essentially destabilizes you and causes you to question your own sanity. He may say "I never said that" or "That's not what we agreed to," yet you remember otherwise. Wolves utilize this technique liberally, and let there be no doubt about it: he is consciously, actively, and sadistically tormenting you to drive you insane.

A fourth clue is the inevitable overt abuse: slapping, shoving, hitting...or worse. The cycle of violence so aptly explained by Lenore Walker – outburst, honeymoon phase, increasing tension, followed by another outburst – demonstrates that the abuse will only get worse, never better. Those who take full and utter responsibility for each and every one of their actions – which is highly, highly unlikely – must prove their mettle over time.

Start seeing a therapist or mental health professional. You will need support to help you cope with the daunting task of managing your emotions.


If he seems too good to be true, he probably is, so stay on your guard, be smart, and don't get duped.

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MLC articles:-

MLC,PD OR MORE(Blog Topic)
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3987.0

NARCISSISM & MLC
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3917.0

My story:-
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3747.0

BD nov 2012
H 55 M 54
Married 25yrs

Initially : I don't want her and I don't want you.
PA with alienator 21 yrs younger mar 2012
OW came and took him Jan 2013
To find out if the grass is greener one must take risks.
I did'nt want this but after what I've done i will have to go.
I think I love her and I'm unsure about you.
If you love me you will have to let me go...I'll come back when I am old.
I want to have fun ..I can't live another 15 yrs with you.
WHY,WHY...asks himself.
When we both calm down we will talk...

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Re: Narcissists- article
#1: August 23, 2013, 06:42:05 AM

Important to note that true NPD narcs are rare, but there are a LOT of people "on the spectrum."  And I truly believe MLC is a narcissistic temper tantrum, whether they were before, they are in MLC, so reading about NPD can help you understand the place your MLCer inhabits, and how to deal with it.  Love and light, ll 
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exH married OW the next week and moved across the country to be with her... 

LL CHOSE to live happily ever after...

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Re: Narcissists- article
#2: October 01, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
This was a good configuration for most Narcissist but has anyone heard of the Altruistic Narcissist? This type of narcissist goes out of his way to make his spouse and everyone else dependent of him and he can no longer have his Narcissist supply he dumps you like a hot potatoes and finds another person to exploit.
All his true colors come out. Things you had suspected at times but couldn't believe that this loving honorable man would be capable of. He would rub my feet in the middle of the night and practically become my wet nurse. He enabled me to become so dependent on him that I didn't even know how to change a channel on the TV. HE DID EVERYTHING FOR ME!!! It's nice to get the attention but his attention began with smothering me than turned into nursing me and than into sheer hatred.

He abandoned me for OW without remorse or empathy. I'm from US. I had followed him to the West Coast where we only had superficial friends that surrounded us. When he left I found myself alone without a career, without a home and without emotional support. I believe his mother is a narcissist that never grew up and is now a hoarder. But she suddenly felt better when she realized he was leaving me. Never a word about it to me either. I had been with this man for 16 years and married for 12 and never got invited once at his mom's home. We have no children together, Thank God. He caused me unrepairable damage that I'm really struggling with. He was my life, my world but I felt that he gave me a lot except the love he so professed he had for me. He lied lied lied about everything to me and everyone else. I thought he was the most honest and upright human being I had ever know. To good to be true...absolutely.  The unusual Narcissist>The Altruistic Narcissist...it's worth looking up  God bless Sw
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Re: Narcissists- article
#3: October 01, 2013, 01:05:33 PM
Eventually, you cannot deny the lies, which are second nature to this man, the wolf. He lied all along, but you didn't want to know it or couldn't see it before now. He plays mind games with you and your children, denying he's doing so. It's subtle at first but amazingly effective. You, destabilized and questioning your own sanity, are slowly being driven mad.
This hit home and a lot of other things in this post.

The abuse continues. It always does if you stay. He starts berating you for your cooking, your mothering skills, your appearance. Hitting, slapping, and punching are not far behind. By now, you see a pattern: to the world, they see his mask, but you must live with the man. With a sneer, he'll say "No one will ever believe a word you say."

Yep- because I'm the one who's crazy..not him. That's why HE THINKS no one will believe me.

You 're faced with an imposter who has hidden the money, isolated you from family and friends, and driven a wedge between you and your children. His explanations are rehearsed and twisted, painting you as the instigator, the psycho, the money-grubbing b*tch

This is quite accurate..it's possible I may have elevated myself to a money grubbing b!tch. But without being able to PROVE anything only having his WORD which is worth diddly I probably won't quite reach those heights.
 
I' ll just remain a psycho he's convinced the children that they need to stay away from.

Anyway I've accepted the fact that this is what I dealt with. A ..I don't know WHAT HE IS! Sorry I ever married him to begin with.

The good news is you can heal from this if you start with no contact. You have to severe all ties and go on with your life. He's beat me up for 30 years I'm not spending the next twenty beating myself up for it.

I'm just sorry my daughters are trying to live with it. They do not know what REAL freedom is.
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Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: Narcissists- article
#4: October 01, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
Awesome article! Scary how much of it rings true. I think you're right in saying MLC is like a narcissistic temper tantrum. Though as we say, knowledge is power so this makes what can seem so crazy make more sense. Thanks for sharing
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Re: Narcissists- article
#5: October 01, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
And when it makes sense I found it easier to put the focus on me!
 And what about them? -not so much. ;)
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There are two ways of spreading light:
Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: Narcissists- article
#6: October 01, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
From the blog/website I get the newsletter from:

“Like everyone else it is difficult to pin it down to one thing, but in a nutshell it is the sudden realization that you have been totally and utterly conned on every level and you have suddenly found yourself in the middle of a nuclear winter. The word betrayal does not even seem to cut it as it implies one event, not the myriad events of trashing everything one has believed in. Realizing that he did not love was not as mind blowing as realizing he could not care less and actually enjoyed the destruction.” - See more at: http://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/how-i-let-go-of-the-biggest-things-that-hurt/#sthash.imWCc3yC.dpuf
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There are two ways of spreading light:
Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: Narcissists- article
#7: October 02, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Dear All,

I don't post as I am 65, no children, H66, married 30 years.  BD Feb 2012 and left Sept 2012.  When I read all of
your stories I feel sad, so sad and don't feel as if I have huge problems.

Reading this article about Narcissists yesterday was like a flash of lightning hitting me.  My h left at the end of my
breast cancer treatment (op, chemo and radio).  I couldn't understand why there was very little empathy and thought
it was because "Mummy" wasn't available.

Yesterday, everything fell into place like the last piece of a jigsaw puzzle.  The years of abuse, the coldness the distance
both mental and physical and the sneering and total arrogance when I suggested once or twice there could have been
someone else.  He finally left for a girl the age of his daughter, bought the sports car (blue not red) and hangs out
with a new bunch of young friends who "admire" him.  I have been left in France and he is back in UK.

Thank you for giving me this link to finally detach completely and regain my inner peace.   I am shocked by the
realisation but relieved  that I wasn't to blame and have to leave him in his own fragile la-la land.

I think of all you ladies often and send you love and hugs from down here in France.

 
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#8: October 15, 2013, 10:20:12 AM
If  MLCers were brought up in a narcissistic family cud their symptoms of depression as adults play a part in MLC ......according to the author of the following article  "It is common for adult children of narcissists to enter treatment with emotional symptomen or relationship issues".

This cud explain why some MLCers like mine ,always  want to look like the nice Guy....seeking approval  from  others which they never got ....as well as their passive agressive behaviour.

The  article below is an eye opener.
The Narcissistic Family Portrait
It can stink and look pretty at the same time.

by Karyl McBride


Clinical experience and research show that adult children of narcissists have a difficult time putting their finger on what is wrong. Denial is rampant in the narcissistic family system. "The typical adult from a narcissistic family is filled with unacknowledged anger, feels like a hollow person, feels inadequate and defective, suffers from periodic anxiety and depression, and has no clue about how he or she got that way." It is common for adult children of narcissists to enter treatment with emotional symptoms or relationship issues, but simultaneously display a lack of awareness of the deeper etiology or cause. The narcissistic family hides profound pain.

In a nutshell, the narcissistic family operates according to an unspoken set of rules. Children learn to live with those rules, but they never stop being confused and pained by them, for these rules block children's emotional access to their parents. They are basically invisible - not heard, seen or nurtured. Tragically, conversely, this set of rules allows the parents to have no boundaries with the children and to use and abuse them as they see fit. Sounds awful, doesn't it?

Let's browse some common dynamics from this profoundly dysfunctional intergenerational system. Keep in mind there are degrees of dysfunction on a spectrum depending on the level of narcissism in the parents.

Secrets:
The family secret is that the parents are not meeting the children's emotional needs or they are abusive in some way. This is the norm in the narcissistic family. The message to the children: "Don't tell the outside world...pretend everything is fine."

Image:
The narcissistic family is all about image. The message is: we are bigger, better, have no problems, and we must put on the face of perfection. Children get the messages: "What would the neighbors think?" "What would the relatives think?" What would our friends think?" These are common fears in the family. "Always put a smile on that pretty little face."

Negative Messages:
Children are given spoken and unspoken messages that get internalized. Those messages typically are: "You're not good enough." "You don't measure up." "You are valued for what you do rather than for who youare."

Lack of Parental Hierarchy:
In healthy families there is a strong parental hierarchy where the parents are in charge and shining love, light, guidance, and direction down to the children. In narcissistic families the hierarchy is non-existent. The children are there to serve parental needs.

Lack of Emotional Tune-In:
Narcissistic parents lack the ability to emotionally tune in to their kids. They cannot feel and show empathy or unconditional love. They are typically critical and judgmental.

Lack of Effective Communication:
The most common type of communication in narcissistic families is through triangulation. This is where information is told through one party about another in hopes it will get back to the other party. Information is not direct. Family members talk about each other to other members of the family, but don't confront the individuals directly. Alas, causing the creation of passive-aggressive behavior, tension, and mistrust among family members. When communication is direct, it is often in the form of anger or rage.

Unclear Boundaries:
There are few boundaries in the narcissistic family. Children's feelings are not considered important. Diaries are read, physical boundaries not kept, and emotional boundaries not respected. The right to privacy is not typically a part of the family history.

One Parent Narcissistic, The Other Orbits:
If one parent is narcissistic, it is common for the other parent to have to revolve around the narcissist to keep the marriage intact. Many times the other parent has redeeming qualities to give to the children, but is tied up meeting the needs of the narcissistic spouse. This often leaves the children's needs unmet. Who is there for them?

Siblings Are Not Encouraged To Be Close:
In healthy families, we encourage our children to be loving and close to each other. In narcissistic families, children are pitted against each other and taught competition. There is a constant comparison of who is doing better and who is not. Some children are favored or seen as the golden child and others become the scape-goat for the parents projected negative feelings. Siblings in narcissistic families rarely grow up feeling emotionally connected to each other.

Feelings:
Feelings are denied and not discussed. Children are not taught to embrace their emotions and process them in realistic ways. They are taught to stuff, repress, and are told their feelings don't matter. Narcissistic parents are typically not in touch with their own feelings and therefore project them onto others. This causes a lack of accountability and honesty...not to mention other psychological disorders. If we don't process feelings, they do leak out in other unhealthy ways.

Not Good Enough Messages:
These messages come across loud and clear in the narcissistic family. Some parents actually speak this message in various ways and others just model it to the children. Even with arrogant and boastful behavior, under the veneer of a narcissist is a self-loathing psyche that gets passed to the child.

The Dysfunction Can Be Obvious or Covert:
In narcissist families, the dynamics can be seen or disguised. The dysfunction displayed in violent and abusive homes is usually obvious. Emotional and psychological abuse, as well as neglectful parenting, is often hidden. Where the drama is not displayed as openly to the outside world, it is just as or more damaging to the children.

In reviewing the above dynamics one can see how this kind of family can stink and look pretty at the same time. If you recognize your family here, please know there is hope and recovery. Although we can't change the past, we can take control of the now. We do not have to be defined by the wounded in our family systems. As Mark Twain defines the optimist, I also see the recovering adult child: "A person who travels on nothing from nowhere to happiness." We can create new life that will flow through us to the future and stop the legacy of distorted love learned in the narcissistic family. If we choose recovery, we can defy intergenerational statistics
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MLC articles:-

MLC,PD OR MORE(Blog Topic)
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3987.0

NARCISSISM & MLC
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3917.0

My story:-
http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=3747.0

BD nov 2012
H 55 M 54
Married 25yrs

Initially : I don't want her and I don't want you.
PA with alienator 21 yrs younger mar 2012
OW came and took him Jan 2013
To find out if the grass is greener one must take risks.
I did'nt want this but after what I've done i will have to go.
I think I love her and I'm unsure about you.
If you love me you will have to let me go...I'll come back when I am old.
I want to have fun ..I can't live another 15 yrs with you.
WHY,WHY...asks himself.
When we both calm down we will talk...

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Re: Narcissists- article
#9: October 15, 2013, 10:40:09 AM
Wow! This describes my H's family to a "T". I was reading it shocked to the core! I've seen this with my own eyes in the last 15 years of interaction between the family members! Wow! It sure explains a LOT!
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