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Interacting with Your MLCer Re: No Contact
#70: February 17, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
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Re: No Contact
#71: February 18, 2014, 07:23:20 PM
On the one hand I feel like no contact is better for healing. I feel better not allowing him to mistreat me.

On the other hand now that almost four months have passed I wonder How will I know if he ever recovers from his MLC if there is no contact?....
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Re: No Contact
#72: February 18, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
He may contact you. If he's respectful? Only time will tell if it continues.

No one deserves to be mistreated or abused. Take care of YOU!

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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact
#73: February 18, 2014, 09:38:27 PM
I have gone NC as well since Nye and Suffered 3 days of threats regarding not having access to the kids. I also have had to go NC with D15. This is only temporary but I have been used by D15 who has been playing us both off in order to gain more freedom. I know everyone is going to say she is only a kid but she has been hanging with OM and W as they have allowed her to go to the pub with them. She needs to learn a lesson as well to prevent her growing up like W.

I am now getting voicemails and W has sent texts saying she has apologised via Vm but I have not read the whole text as I think it will set me back.

Who knows she might even be trying to reconnect. Either way I am determined to go at least three months Nc as I no longer wish to cycle with her anymore. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Hi B.
I haven't read your story yet but my d is 12 and l just hate to think of what might be coming up, my heart really goes out to you. We've been sep 15mths.
So far it's been pretty peaceful on a whole and ex has been very helpful with my d and l.  She even talked me into staying close when the house sells and l move . l ike 15mins close, which l want to to be handy for d.
But l don't understand so much with her and as l spend wed nights over there to be with d , it matters in a way.
Ex is normally chatty and stays home when l go to see d, makes tea and all, welcomes me in anytime.
But since V day and flowers beside her bed , she's been outside if l'm there and talked very little.
And then bc my d was away on camp and l hadn't seen her since she got back,  was going Mon night to be with her awhile. Strangest thing , ex would normally say oh no problem yeah come over . But l get a strange text say they had stuff to do after school and could l just come wed instead.
l text her what stuff ? , no reply.
She done this before so as l was going past anyway l dropped in. Ex was still at work and d knew nothing about stuff to do.
Very strange and agaIN , since V day.
Ex got home an hr after l got thee , talking ok , said how she got called of at work late , no mention of the stuff they were supposedly doing , then she went outside and sat there playing with her phone. Again avoiding me.
First time she's acted like this , obviously 180ing me but what's happened.

Like you l've sucked up anger from day one to for my d. Although ex was good from day one with me and d, she left , destroyed her family , started seeing an om , took my daughter, not to mention the house we'd just bout and the trouble we went through to get it .
So strange , she said you can have the house l don't want anything.
We were in heaps of debt , it was a 3 yr plan though and after that we'd be laughing. 18mths in , this. Pretty sure escaping the pressure was big in this.

 But although we've had a few al nighters texting and sorry's and regrets and guilt from her . She doesn't hassle me at all like yours. lf there's no money or d to sort l don't hear from her.
With the camp d just got back from it was our first 7days with nc. l wondered if she would but nothing.

ln a way l envy you , because yours seems to still need it , you , even if it's not pretty , she obviously does. Mine doesn't seem to , that really hurts.
Sometimes l'd rather a bit of abuse than nothing , leastit means se needs to talk to me.
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Re: No Contact
#74: February 19, 2014, 03:25:38 AM
Hi Hawk

I will reply when I have some time. A Tragic event has  happpened this last week Which has changed things from my point of view. I lost my father last week and although i am not in crisis i can see how it could start one. My W crisis was initiated, I believe, by her mothers esrly death three years ago.

The void thats left is impossible to fill and when the spouse dies not fill it if they search for someone else. It does not work of course which must be the rebirth phase.

Only time will tell but I am determined to become better from this and not worse as our spouses have become.
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Re: No Contact
#75: February 19, 2014, 03:47:39 AM
Sometimes l'd rather a bit of abuse than nothing , leastit means se needs to talk to me.

Me too and when I feel sad or lonely I just have to remember what it was like to be with the "family" and it cures me really quick.

And compared to three years ago? ( 4 at the end of June) this is truly heaven with what he put me through-or I should say I let him.

I should have gone NC right off the bat. Too concerned with trying to keep the "family" together praying for a second chance. I probably could have had him arrested for harassment and should have.  I put up with abuse long enough.

I answered every email every phone call talked to him every time he wanted to talk. Didn't make him wait two seconds for a response. I didn't want to be "rude" or impolite. I desperately didn't want time to pass I thought more damage would be done if I did.

And it has for THEM now not me. I have somewhat healed. I couldn't care less what's going on. Not my monkeys not my circus.

Don't sacrifice your self respect and cave . Your D knows you are there for her.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

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Re: No Contact
#76: February 19, 2014, 04:01:03 AM
Just joining the thread here (Init - will respond to your post on my thread in a sec - thanks for that)

Hawk - I understand what you are saying about ANY contact being better than none. My thoughts have also been that if there is NO contact, no spewing, no monster etc etc then how can we gauge the MLC journey??
Conversely I do also agree with you Init and it is something that I am beginning to realise...

In my situation No Contact has been the redeeming feature...
In the past I have ALWAYS held out the olive branch - appeased WAP, wanted to talk, wanted to work it out, wanted contact etc etc....BUT....this time, at BD - something inside me said NO MORE.....something said to me at BD - I can NOT be in contact with this man who can hurt myself and D in this way - who seems like an alien - who has not got our best interests at heart. I simply cannot do it....

Hence my absolute silence EXCEPT for when I needed to email him to arrange getting our things form his house.
Even though, as most of you know from my posts, it is sometimes excruciating to not be in ANY contact what i do hold on to is the fact that, at the end of the day, I have maintained my self respect (and respect for my D) by doing this.

In my case WAP knew what this meant. He ranted at my mother in an email 1-2 days after BD wanting to know why I hadn't responded to his BD email (even though he asked me not to contact him), wanting to know why I wasn't showing any remorse, regret, sadness, understanding etc etc...
He was expecting me to cave in and beg and plead etc.

I just couldn't go there. And I haven't.....
So even though since we have taken our things now from his house and he doesn't seem to care that there is No Contact I know for me that I am sending a message that what he is done is not right.

In general I am a very giving and loving person. I have rarely (if ever) cut ANYBODY off and maintained No Contact (except my ex-H)
So WAP would know FULL WELL what this means..

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Re: No Contact
#77: February 19, 2014, 04:09:27 AM
Hawk - I understand what you are saying about ANY contact being better than none. My thoughts have also been that if there is NO contact, no spewing, no monster etc etc then how can we gauge the MLC journey??

Bellagio don't worry about gauging anything. The ones were dealing with have been in crisis their whole lives. There no "saving" them or loving them out of their issues.

 Consider the time you spent with them as sparing some other decent, good, soul a lot of pain. That's the only thing or thought some days that makes me feel better.

And thank your lucky stars you didn't MARRY them.  ::)
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There are two ways of spreading light:
Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact
#78: February 19, 2014, 04:41:32 AM
So glad we have each other through this mess.
Excuse spelling mistakes to btw , l didn't have much time.

l've too struggled with NC or not stuff, l've done pretty good . lf l do it's nearly always about money, house or d these days. And being over there mid wk nights is to hang out with d. l do also just pick her up and we go somewhere but with school nights , weather , can be easier to just go in for a few hrs . l'm feeling like l shouldn't be there lately though especially with ex's latest 180ing or whatever she's doing.
Tonight was a test as l've just got back. Ex had a beautiful tea in the oven , she was sorta back to normal but then went out for a few hrs and left us to it. d and l wrestled and messed about.
Ex got back 8.30 , chatty chatty tonight . l left an hr later.

l've used contact as a gauge feeler too and l was hoping for R.
Before Christmas she was inviting me over any old time , making nice teas , really talky , showing me new clothes even arm and hand touches. A couple of late stays l actually thought she was turning and really seemed to enjoy us all together late at night again. The main reason this about face of hers is so weird, then the v day roses.

Yeah l don't know in it. like we don't have any monster of nasties. When l say suck it up l more mean in what she's done. But she's actually very nice , respectful , even often inviting, it's a stranger one than some.

Very sorry about your loss B. l've also lost both parent in the last 5yrs but it was expected and l was actually relieved dad got to p off - damn hospitals , he'd had enough.
l guess it depends what else was going on with your spouse but yep l've read of quite a few going off too after losing a parent.
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Re: No Contact
#79: February 19, 2014, 04:56:08 AM
l've used contact as a gauge feeler too , nothing to go on if you don't that's been my issue and l was hoping for R.
Before Christmas she was inviting me over any old time , making nice teas , really talky , showing me new clothes even arm and hand touches. A couple of late stays l actually thought she was turning and really seemed to enjoy us all together late at night again. The main reason this about face of hers is so weird, then the v day roses.


Well it looks like she might be also looking for a relationship- how many GIRLFRIENDS does she have?

What you just described to me was what women normally do with their GIRLFRIENDS. New clothes etc..if they weren't on her BODY? She's showing you these for your APPROVAL.

So if she got roses and they weren't from you on V Day? IMHO? uhmmm she's not ready for a real man and woman relationship.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

 

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