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#30: June 04, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
wow! ..this is interesting to me . Prior to my husband leaving for the land of oz to visit the wicked OW of the west , he was "rock solid ", rarely ( maybe never ) lost his temper , had himself under tight tight control all of the time. Even when he SHOULD have been angry and he LOOKED angry .. he would totally deny ( in a flat monotone voice) that he was the least bit angry. It was crazy !He denied almost every emotion that there is . At bomb drop everything about him changed   . I swear his eyes belonged to someone else ( my other got the chills ) his arrogant posture was different , he sat in a chair all sprawled out like a defiant 15 year old , he strutted all different .. his "aura" was scary. My intuition went on high alert and I was very very reluctant to leave any of my kids or grandkids alone with him ... even to the backyard. He too is trained military, muscle bound construction, football, wrestling star  .. blah blah all " he man. He was enraged by a new guy they hired at his work .. NEVER have I seen him unable to get along with someone as he very well liked and personable , But he hated this guy with a passion. My husband was the "alpha dog " at work, the "trouble shooter ", the guy who will get the job done , the hero and the best on the best . It was his identity and where many of his needs for acknowledgement, admiration, validation and pride were met . Then comes "Howard" that is the new up and coming alpha dog in a highly energized younger man body. Gives my husband a run for position number 1 and this is where I 1st saw absolute rage that he has to work with this ass%ole etc etc . Months I listened to that spewing rage .. Howard put  my husband into MLC ( kidding of course, but something cracked ). I became very cautious around my husband as I saw total out of  control rage and frustration at all times . He grabbed me at BD and pushed me up against the post on the deck and said " do not f-ing push me ". NEVER EVER has he touched me or ever said the f-word at me . He spit all over my glasses he was so enraged . He trapped my in the laundry room and would not let me out and he grabbed my little granddaughter off her feet. The last straw was when my youngest dauhters truck broke down and he had to go rescue her . He told her ( on the side of the highway ) to drive his f-ing truck back . You need a ladder to get into his huge truck and she was afraid to drive it on the expressways thru Toronto etc. So she said that she could not..she was afraid to. He had a stroke, told her to f-ing grow up , drive the f-ing truck etc . Horrified , she called me bawling her eyes out asking me " what is wrong with him mom??". I told her to get her purse out of her vehicle and start walking ( she could see a plaza) and do not talk, just walk away . So she did . I called him and told him I will call the police in 5 seconds if you dare try to force her to drive that truck . I kicked him out he next day . I do remember sitting well back from the table on the deck because I was worried he was going to flip it or smash it . We were afraid and it was getting worse. He does not remember things he did or said either . NO recall at all , is so shocking. His boss told me that my husband had such a rage attack at work that he was glad there was a desk between them. I could not believe it was the same person I have known for over 30 years .MY husband was never ever happy or content or settled during his entire period .. he was someone trying to shed his own skin in rage .So, his "OW" was certainly not making enough of a difference that he was "happy ". And , in a rage at "Howard" he quit his job. Still hard to acceot or belive he would ever ever quit a job like that .We were becoming more nervous and stressed out day after day ... It was better ( if there is such a thing ) after he was out of the house  I assume that he did not rant and rage at his " OW hag".. she must have gotten his good side. The scars will take a log time to heal.
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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#31: June 04, 2015, 08:35:08 PM
I'm pretty sure the ex is too much of a coward to kill himself..and he's too afraid of going to jail if he hurt or killed someone.

However sometimes it makes me wonder when he finally wakes up and realizes he will lose his entire family too. His mother will pass away and I am hoping SOON the youngest one leaves his house.The oldest has already left.

Makes me a little anxious about someone this unbalanced and "nothing left to lose"

And I do believe he has a mental illness. He has a NPD that was magnified by the MLC.
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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#32: June 05, 2015, 06:42:16 AM
MLC definitely seems to bring about mental illness. They aren't in their right minds. Mine has been trying to get me diagnosed with BPD for years to no avail. It's part of the reason for me asking for the psychological evaluation. I think that not only is he a Borderline, but he has Avoidance Personality Disorder as well.

Either way, they aren't rational, logical, or realistic to say the least. I wasn't worried about him being violent, until I saw the top to bullet the case ( the shotgun shells are in paper boxes, the handgun bullets are in plastic cases ) out on the dresser. Man, I'm so glad that I unloaded the hand/shot guns. Who knows what state of mind he was in at that point. It's scary just thinking about it. Because he's been impulsive in the past, it wasn't a stretch for him to do something without thinking and then regretting it later.

I've been praying that he doesn't hurt himself or anyone else. He's unstable that's for sure. He really thought that he was going to win in court. Now that's delusion for you. I'm sure the whole thing was meant to embarrass and humiliate me. It backfired. He literally fled from the courtroom, and his attorney left the court house like she was fleeing for her life. Welcome back to the real world, we've missed you.

As for what In It says about mental illness, I think that she's spot on.
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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#33: June 05, 2015, 06:53:59 AM
We may appear to be either bi polar or whatever the diagnoses is.

 I'd have to say that might be how I appeared as I tried to communicate or get anything through to him. Agreeing with him kept some peace.

 My resentment of the fact that he was unwilling to see anything other than what he wanted ran very deep.

Screaming at him or ignoring him got to be the daily communication with him. It was exhausting to say the least.

 They DO NOT LISTEN because they know everything.

Being narccistically abused IMHO leaves you with being unheard if you are unwilling to accept their warped sense of reality.

If you go along with them everything is just hunky dory.

Give an @$$hole money? And he's pretty much God.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#34: June 05, 2015, 07:03:23 AM
I believe that in their MLC craziness, they do think we are the ones with mental illness. Mine called me a "crazy b!tch" to my face, once, and I shot back that if I was, his flaunting of his affair made me so.

Yes, I was crazy. I became emotionally unstable for awhile because I was living in a kind of hell no one should ever have to experience. He didn't care except that he wanted "normalcy"--something that wasn't going to happen when he was doing the crap he was doing. It wasn't until he moved out that my emotions finally stabilized. But I don't think he was able to fully recognize his role in what I became.

In It, I agree with your assessment of narcissistic abuse and what it does to us. We are not heard and we deserve to be heard. Is it any wonder some of us go a bit nuts?

3, I pray yours doesn't do anything stupid. They have such grandiose feeling of entitlement that when those don't come to fruition, they do get weird, and that can be scary. You are being caution and safe--that's the most important thing right now!
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That's was some f*cked up sh!t! I don't ever have to do that again!

Why are you holding on to that? How is it serving you?

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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#35: June 05, 2015, 07:15:17 AM
Exactly they refuse to LISTEN then point the finger at us that we're nuts...really?

They don't have to do what we are telling them. And in his case he would do just the opposite. So I knew I could not express any needs or he'd do the exact opposite.

How in the hell is there ever going to be a healthy relationship when some significant other knows what you need then REFUSES to do it? I'm not talking about sex here I'm talking about day to day life.

They could use to open up their minds just a little bit to someone else's view of something.

It could start as simply as...How was YOUR day? And actually be interested!

 But he never asked me that. The firetrucking world revolved around him.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#36: June 05, 2015, 08:08:37 AM
@LP
Nice to speak to you too! :)
Thank you for your answer to my question!
I was thinking now: My H said about a month ago that he wants to move on alone. My son asked why. He said: because your mom with NOreason left with you kids for two days.
Now everyone thinks I'm bad.
Curious: he didn't remember his behaviour from that time, my son did....he said: she had to protect us.
He also doesn t remember times after that where we had christmas together, and other events, and even spent the night together. Only remember me for no reason leaving him.
I have no experiennce with militaries.

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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#37: June 05, 2015, 08:13:22 AM
I have a good example of this.
when the girls were little I was driving a huge black old Bronco.

Summer was coming. It had no AC. and the windows motors were shot and would not roll down.It was diffucult to go anywhere in the summer heat with an old truck like that.
I found a car locally the girls and I practically fell downstairs trying to get out of the house..we were so excited to go drive it.

He did buy it (he was driving a brand new car) it was 1500.00
I told him.how excited the girls and I were.His response?
"I think I neglected my family"

Ya think???? I thought that might be the start of someone more thoughtful...nope that didn't sink in either.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#38: June 05, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
It's a little more dangerous for us who have spouses that are trained to kill. We have to walk a fine line. You never know what's going to set them off. They are quick to call us names, and use threatening moves and words.

He was quick call me crazy when we fought, that seems to be a common theme.
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Re: The dangerous side of MLC
#39: June 05, 2015, 01:53:37 PM
I can imagine it is quite a fine line.I'm happy I didn't get involved with someone who might be ex special ops etc.

When I went to Domestic Violence to set it up to report him if he came near me again I told the woman there" He's convinced I'm crazy. He's brainwashed the kids"

She waved her hand in the air in a dismissive fashion and said. "They ALL say that"

So these men seem to have a similar mind frame. We HAVE to be the crazy ones because it couldn't possibly be THEM.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
Be the candle; or the mirror that reflects it

Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

 

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