[How many of your MLCers are on antidepressants/SSRI medication]

How many of your MLCers are on antidepressants/SSRI medication

Yes started after MLC

9 (20%)

Yes started before MLC

10 (22.2%)

Do not know

4 (8.9%)

No

22 (48.9%)

Total Members Voted: 45

[Shantilly Lace]

Ok, you can get ready to shoot me down BUT this is from MY experience and well documented studies is that the more they talk about it the LESS likely they are to do it.
The more they talk the more likely it is to be used as a control method.

Sometimes things maybe said in passing but rarely do they say i am and then torment you with it.

Believe me I know.  I have been suicidal twice and neither time did I tell ANYONE until after it had all gone away.  I was very cold and calculated and knew exactly how Iwas going to do it so that no one would be able to save me, or stop me.

You read stories of "oh they seemed down but I never knew..." or even "I had no clue."

THIS is the way it is.  The more they threaten the morelikely they are yanking your chain.  H told me 2 months after he left he had thought about it but something stopped him.  I was terrified but as a few male friends said no point in being terrified now, he won't do it now he's told you.

So please don't let them control you this way. If they are going to they would do it and nothing you could do would stop them it is THEIR choice not your problem.

Sorry to sound harsh but that is the way it is.

[LoveMeMyself]

SL, thanks for your input.  I had also heard that many times.  People who talk are just all talk......they never intend to carry it out.  I've read too many stories about people who actually did carry it out (suicide) and nobody ever, not once, heard them talk about it.  I felt like I was having my "chain" yanked as you stated.  I figured it was an attempt on my H's part to see if I really cared about him or not.......maybe another "control" thing.  He might have even gotten a thrill out of doing that to me.  I feel like when he told me about being on so much medication because of his "suicidal thoughts" it was just another ploy to get sympathy from me.  These MLC'ers really know how to play head games.  I appreciate your input. 

We all sure need each other and it's just so nice to be able to share with others. 

Have a great weekend everybody!

[watching and waiting]

I had also heard that many times.  People who talk are just all talk......they never intend to carry it out.  I've read too many stories about people who actually did carry it out (suicide) and nobody ever, not once, heard them talk about it. 

My H has talked about suicide at least 3 times last year.  To members of my family as well as me.
On each occasion it was for attention and to drag me onto the rollercoaster.
He is cheif manipulator during this MLC.
That didn't work so now we are onto the next thing.
I believe that saying too.
If they are talking about it, they are less likely to do it.
If they are going to do it, they won't tell, they just do.

HUGS

[Braincell77]

I have completed months of research on this subject and it may be having an effect on our situations.

 For those LBS taking medication to help you have you noticed an emotional disconnect from your partner shortly after treatment has started?

[crazyjourney]

I have voted that I dont know.

I havent taken anything myself, I do know though that my h had taken a herbal remedy for depression St johns wort I think it was, I only found out later what it was for, I thought it was for indigestion as he also took milk thistle and that senna stuff I thought it was all similar and didnt take much notice at the time, just thought they were all for more healthy digestion.

[Braincell77]

That's interesting because st Johns wort can cause similar manic reactions similar to anti depressants and also work in the same way and effect the same hormone . This is especially the case when mixed with alcohol or if the taker was slightly bipolar. This is quite a big part of my w problem imo. I wish mote people would get involved as it really might be something else involved in the mix.

[Braincell77]

I have just voted yrs and realised others have so ignore my previous post and thanks for getting involved! :DThe results so far showthat they are involved in a lot of cases. My phone is lagging badly so I will share some of my findings when I get to a proper keyboard!!

[onlyjo]

Hi BC
my h has been depressed for years--did not ever sleep--traveled for work.  he is also conflict avoidant and passive aggressive, in addition to probably a lot of other things.  in November of 2010, after he had blown up at me one night after he had gotten home from being out with friends, he started therapy and went on anti-anxiety meds (prozac i think--whatever commercial that had the little sad egg-looking thing rolling around).  after several months, he quit the meds cold turkey and the bottom just dropped out of everything.  he said the reason he quit the meds was that i had not given him enough encouragement.  WTF? 

h also quit therapy, which leads me to believe the therapist had gotten to a point of telling h things h didn't want to hear.  i could be wrong though. 

h is really a disaster of a person, and has been for years now.  MLC takes a long time!
onlyjo

[Ready2Transform]

My H's story is very similar to OJ's.  He was going through something in 2009 or longer, but started first with Seroquel XR after a bipolar diagnosis by the general practitioner (I know) in Jan 2010, within a month I think was then transferred to a psychiatrist and separate therapist who downgraded to generalized anxiety (H was scared of having a more serious illness - I think he lied to get it downgraded) and was put on I believe Celexa or something else I'm forgetting - but definitely did the Celexa for awhile and actually did well on it (other than digestive issues).  Because of the issues he was switched to Lexapro, went off of it cold turkey within a month, all hell broke loose and life has never been the same, yadda yadda.  It wasn't the cause, but I spoke with a PTSD specializing psychologist (happens to be a friend's mother) who believes the drugs, given at a time when he was not manic, threw him into mania.  I suspect the FOO on the father's side has a B6 deficiency due to a lot of consistent chronic issues that lead back to that.  If that's true, he naturally is not creating enough serotonin, and that is contributing to the depression and Monster.  I also think there's a strong link to a dissociative fugue state, but I also think there's merit in looking at it psychologically through the Erikson/Conway/Jung MLC viewpoint.  Maybe low T too?  Can we just call it a hot mess?   

But I answered "I don't know" because I don't since he is off in la la land.  I do know he did better when just on B-complex, St. John's Wort, and briefly spring of 2012 when I talked him into trying L-Tyrosine. 

[Braincell77]

Right guys and girls this is really starting to make sense. CT withdrawal will make someone turn manic and even the manufacturer of the drug advises against this. Low serotonin theory is a load of crap too! There is no way of measuring serotonin in a living brain for a start. Also raising serotonin lowers dopamine which is the love hormone which bonds ccouples together. This happens over time as the brain tries to balance the imbalance caused by the nerds. This is a brief explanation but I will have more.

These drugs take away anxiety by flooding the brain with serotonin closing down dopamine production leading to emotional blunting .The uSer craves dopamine hits which are attained in short bursts by New partners hobbies risk taking etc. Sounds like a midlife crisis does it not?

Google Helen Fisher and ssri stopping love. What I would say about posters who are saying no is are they certain their spouse's did not take ad's before BD

Sweating and wild eyes are aalso a side effect. Funny that!