[Bewildered]

thank you all for your support and continued 'keeping me on the right track'. I was so detached that I had forgot how to speak to him and now when he calls he uses my cell phone (he said this time last year - when I had asked him to call to discuss a home matter - that he wont call me on my cell phone as it may interrupt me and I will be too  busy to talk - wont you, my reply then was that like always I only answer my phone if I can talk and if he left a message I would call him back  now (after a year of NC) every time he wants to discuss anythink or as he says when he leaves a message - 'calling for a chat?' he calls the cell phone or home previously everyhing was by email.
If i sign off texts with a X or emails with love - i get nothing back then when I sign off with a B or nothing I get X back?
just tried it as an experiment so its the B he gets all the time?!!
when i ask him something re the house he takes ages getting back tome but when he asks me he gets impatient for my response and keeps chasing me?
he is now trying very hard with kids to be closer but D is playing very hard to get as she is hurt with him and really has reason to be - he has lied to her on so many occasions and begged her not to tel me.

He is back working harder having the last year been playing around - hes into running marathons and his OW is a long distance runner he met I think at a weekend running camp?  I think that she is really off the scene as i have so much proof that he is not behaving the same as he did and is spending his time alone (for once not a lye) and he is being truthful to me when I ask him if he has had a good weekend (never ask for details just being polite as he has asked me, he does tell me the truth) of course I don't have lots of information - don't want any either - never ask but he now asks me all the time about me, about my work,
but he does blow hot and cold - full on then disappears - even ignored me last week at a party we were both at - he as a bit him old self but a more confident one (must say a bot OTT) but was like a 17 year old trying to make me impressed - how confusing hey?
any ideas where this MLC man is in the tunnel? relay i think but maybe with t&goes ?
what a journey this is so hard for us all
thanks again so much help from you all.

B

[hurt01]

Bumping this up again!
I get so much out of reading everyone elses situations. Wish I had more to give , but I have way more questions than answers. SORRY.

I will tell you what I do know. RCR said touch and goes did not have emotions like awakening at the end of replay. I am pretty sure H started having an awakening. After listening to my D ( and I only listen , don,t question her just let her talk when she feels the need to).

D said H was very emotional as did S. H was wearing preMLCes clothes and doing and acting like old H. Both kids said he was acting like their old dad again. Reaching out to them and telling them he missed and loved them ect, ect. This went on for a few weeks.

Now H has withdrawn back in the tunnel. Pushing D foreward again , defending OW ,and doesn,t want anything to do with the kids or GD. I know this is typical MLCes. But understand H never contacted me at all during this time just the kids. So I know I didn,t do or say anything to push him or make him run back in the tunnel.

I just keep living my life and getting out and doing what ever I can to keep busy. I am just putting this out here as what has happened to me and my sitch. especially since my H is a complete vanisher and has been NC since Jan.

I hope I did not misunderstand what RCR was saying and if I did I apoligize and some one please correct me.

[SpecialK]

Do we ever really know\how do we know if they are trying to reconnect? 
Why do they come out for a little while then retreat for a while before popping back out?
Do they come out for longer and eventually stay out?

SKxx

[Still]

Here is a link to  RCR's articles on this.

https://www.midlifecrisismarriageadvocate.com/chapter-contents.html


Edit fix link

[HeartsBlessing]

OP,

Not to mess with your head; but I'm editing my post to remove the "double link" LOL!!
Thanks, man!

EDIT:  This is now merged with that thread.....

[SpecialK]

Thanks for that, that's really helpful.

[justasking]

I have just reread this thread and it was good to remind myself.

One question for the wise owls.

Do touch and goes only appear in replay?

xx

[OldPilot]

One question for the wise owls.

Do touch and goes only appear in replay?

I would say NO.
I think they appear all the way to the end of the crisis.
Sorry. I wish I was wrong about that .

Just to be perfectly clear.
I have been reading that in some instances you can have BD during withdrawal.
As an un-named moderator can attest to.

[StandandDeliver]

Hi OP, you said

I have been reading that in some instances you can have BD during withdrawal.

were you reading it in an article? Is there a link. Just doing some general reading 
Thanks,
S&D

[OldPilot]

were you reading it in an article? Is there a link.

It is a link from DB. I will re-post it here.

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=47650&Number=2074403#Post2074403

There are some posts written by WONKA who had her own MLC, she dropped the bonb during withdrawal according to what she wrote on this thread.