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Interacting with Your MLCer Re: No Contact
#130: June 14, 2014, 06:48:49 PM
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/31243791139676183/

IMHO a pretty good guideline for life.
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Re: No Contact
#131: June 16, 2014, 01:53:16 AM
No  Contact works, I've posted these om my thread

Less than a week and I think xW is becoming a little bit frustrated by NC (No Contact = No Control).

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She has decided that D12 can go rollerskating this evening, but she asked D over the phone to ask me if I could pick her up for the return home. I said NO so she called me a fat b'stard under her breath but loud enough so D could hear it knowing full well D12 would tell me what she heard. Later xW called the house, D12 answered the phone but dropped it cutting off the call. An angry xW call back and said to D "Tell your dad he's an a$$ hole".  xW thought I had answered the phone and immediately hung up on her. What is her problem !!!

Anyway No Contact = No Control and I'm sticking with it.

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Dam, Dam, Dam !!!!!  xW stepped into the house and drew me into and argument. Monster got its fill to last it a couple of weeks.

I know NC is working but she is prepared to fight it. Roll on the move to the new house.

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Re: No Contact
#132: June 16, 2014, 04:00:50 AM
I'm latching on to no contact

I also went NC, with mine,, it has help me, every time I talk to her I was ripped into again and again sometimes I wonder if it wasthe right thing to do, but I know when I do t alk to her I am in pain all over again

That's it in a nutshell. On another note, what your friend was trying to tell you in a crude way about " the best way to get over a woman" is that you have all your recollections of happiness tied up with your X, you need to create new ones that make you realize that you can be happy again without her.

I have been out to many dances, charity galas and parties, but never hooked up with anyone else, but just getting out on my own and having other people (men and women) be glad of my company makes me realize there is a life without my X. I never realized how much of myself I'd submerged in my married life until this last year or so......It does get better.
I just spotted the line in bold and it summes up exactly where I sam now.

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Re: No Contact
#133: June 16, 2014, 04:05:44 AM
And it takes a while to be ready to do that. Don't rush anything.
And there is a life after this.
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Re: No Contact
#134: June 17, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
I signed up to get newsletter from a healing from narcissistic abuse website. Although I realize that not everyone dealt with a personality disordered MLCER before this happened many have become Narcissistic.. this is from that newsletter:

This powerful tip really helped me get through the no contact stage, and I believe it will really help you keep no contact for good.

Note: This is one of the only times I suggest rehashing the pain of the narcissist, and I promise you it's for a very good cause.

This is the process.

Step 1. Think about the times your narcissist violated your boundaries, was abusive and behaved poorly. Write these incidents down.

Step 2. After you have written these incidents down write in bold red pen the following statement:

"I (your full name) acknowledge that these behaviours are not acceptable, are abusive and do not match my deservedness and truth. These behaviors are NOT MY REALITY, not now, and not ever again".

Now each time you feel the emotional hooks and the addiction to the narcissist dragging your emotions down, re-read this list and your powerful declaration to yourself.

This helps remove the illusion that the narcissist is someone lovable, someone you can heal, someone who is worth being in a relationship with, and someone who has the resources to be a loving partner.

You will find this process extremely helpful when you are feeling the pain of the loss of the narcissist, and the 'dreams' that he or she seemed to represent.

It gets your focus off 'the good times' and back to the reality of who the narcissist really is.

Please understand this process alone is not the complete answer to being able to do No Contact as painlessly as possible and in the most empowered way.

It is a tip to help you not cave in and go back, when the urge to contact hits you hard. It is still vital that you do the real work of focusing on and healing you in order to break powerfully free.


I know you can be strong and keep no contact, even if it feels incredibly hard right now.

Please understand this process is so valuable at the times that you may feel yourself wavering, and being drawn back into the narcissistic muck.

Please don't give up and I promise you things will get better before you know it; it's a matter of getting clear and working on yourself in order to create the true life that you deserve, and knowing clearly that the narcissist is not a match for the reality you can chose and create for yourself.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact
#135: June 18, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
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I used to love doing simple things with him. Home made root beer floats-TV dinners-car rides- I never cared what we did as long as I was with him.

Same for me. I was happy just with him in his pjs on the couch watching tv. It made me happy just to be around him. But obvs it wasn't enough for him... he was bored. He needs to drink, and obliterate himself with videogames, and now the OW. It's still quite offensive to think that he wouldn't speak with me but he would happily text her all the time - he was never the texting type, ever, in his life. I donìt know why he felt he couldn't communicate with me.

Anyway he's a vanisher for the moment and tbh the more I go on with NC, the less I want to contact him altogether. It would just hurt me anyway. I actually dread hearing from him, because unless he's begging for forgiveness, then I?m not interested.
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Re: No Contact
#136: June 18, 2014, 01:11:17 PM
Hi Dagolark..if you got that quote from me? I was talking about my dad..nothing was simple when I was with the ex.

And no ....it's never enough for them to just be with us...we are the cause of thier misery and boredom.

I found the ex quite boring myself.

When the only thing someone is interested in is hearing the sound of thier own voice..it kind of makes it hard to communicate with them.

I don't miss him one bit. NC is the ticket  8)
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

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Re: No Contact
#137: June 18, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
Strange thing is that we were apart for up to three months on end while I studied abroad, a total of about 6 months a year for 5/6 years... and he was comfortable being alone, in fact he liked it, he spent his time on videogames & tv and an hour of skype with me every night. I'm not sure how this all changed when we moved in together - his routine was the same except we ate together and afterward hang out watching the telly before going to bed. Lately I was telling him I felt neglected, that he spoke with me more when I was abroad than now.

I don't know. Sometimes I start thinking is it my fault, was I really boring, but then... then I have to face that his life hadn't changed at all. So something must have changed inside him, something that has nothing to do with me. Such as that big bright panic sign that said 'I'm a committed man now my life is overrrrrrrrr omgggggg'. Hence the drinking and going out for more drinks and hooking up with random stranger.

When I feel angry and upset and in pain and question myself, I have to remember that. Besides, it wasn't my job to be a fricking circus entertainer to keep him amused when he felt like it.
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Re: No Contact
#138: June 18, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
When I feel angry and upset and in pain and question myself, I have to remember that. Besides, it wasn't my job to be a fricking circus entertainer to keep him amused when he felt like it.

Exactly! And it's not your job to make anyone else happy or feed anybody's ego..

I myself would like something peaceful and content and simple and joyful and a relationship that considers the other persons FEELINGS, views , ideas, the give and take..AND enjoy other people for what they have to offer.  :)

So stay with NC and eventually you will work through your emotions.
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

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Re: No Contact
#139: July 03, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Found online:

No Contact Rule
Cutting Out the Ex and Moving Forward
Healthy people who experience a relationship break up generally experience universal stages of grief such as anger, sadness, and disappointment. Eventually they come to accept the loss and move forward.

For love addicts, moving on from a broken relationship literally feels like a dreadful insurmountable ordeal. The agonizing feelings go beyond normal grief— as they are in withdrawal from the love addiction. Accepting the fantasy has crumbled, and moving forward seems unbearable.

And so it goes-- the only seemingly viable option for a love addict is to run from the pain by creating ANY form of contact with their ex partner no matter how bad the relationship was. This is the sickness of love addiction. 

If you are a love addict going through a break up and are in withdrawal --- it is imperative to realize your healing begins with cutting your drug of choice (your ex) cold turkey - in spite of all the distortions and self-sabotaging voices going on in your mind.

Healing starts with a personal pledge to the No Contact Rule.

If you are in a break up and have love addiction . cutting complete contact with your ex is a critical prerequisite to your recovery.

MAINTAINING CONTACT- ANY CONTACT WITH YOUR EX- KEEPS YOU STUCK IN A TOXIC JAM- IT GUARANTEES THE PAIN WILL CONTINUE- IT IMMOBILIZES YOU MOVING FORWARD- IT PUTS TO A STAND STILL THE CHANCE FOR YOU TO RECOVER FROM YOUR LOVE ADDICTION.

If you truly want the pain to heal and get back your sanity. you need to STOP acting out your addiction by breaking ANY, and ALL contact with your ex.

The No Contact Rule is a strategy of detaching yourself 100% from your addiction/ ex partner both emotionally and physically--- at all costs.

Look at it this way--- it is like any other addict wanting to break from their addition.

It is equivalent to a drug addict choosing to totally break from their ecstasy, cocaine or heroin? or a recovering alcoholic no longer reaching for a shot of vodka, no longer going to bars or stopping the a local liquor store? and doing it for the sake of the addicts sanity, wanting to get back their sense of self.

No Contact for love addicts means no more seeking that swig of the bottle or "hit" of heroin? except when you are addicted to love, your drug is your ex---- and detaching from the addiction with a knowing that if you do, it will always follow a poisonous and unhealthy outcome.

Like a heroin addict, you "hit the pipe" for each and every contact you have with your ex, and keep trapped in your addiction

No Contact means-- No texting, No calling, No Face booking , No emailing, No twittering, No triangular communication through a friend, No small talk, No nice talk, No how are you, No checking on his/her whereabouts? and No more excuses.

Committing to the No Contact Rule represents no longer choosing the same old destructive pattern-- no more fueling your ex partners wants and needs, while disregarding your own.

NO CONTACT MEANS NO CONTACT, ANY CONTACT, PERIOD.
When your ex partner contacts you

If, or better yet when-- your ex partner attempts to open the door by contacting you? urging you to bite for the those tiny little crumbs which you have gobbled up for much-much too long-- you say NO, NO, NO, period!

You must refuse to get hoodwinked with his/her drama, self-pity, charm, charisma, seduction tactics, words or promises only to be hurt again and again. You cannot allow it.

When he/she attempts to call, text or email you --- you must choose NOT to respond or answer. You say NO way, NO more--- STOP. You say it is over. You hang up. You disconnect. You physically leave the scene. You detach. You say Good-bye.

You close the door tight. In fact, you forcefully slam the door shut and dead-bolt it ten times and throw away the keys.

When you keep the connection going contact -- you put yourself in a less than position - you put him/her on a false pedestal making him/her your higher power. Your ex is not a God or Goddess. Knock him/her off that fictitious pedestal.
No Contact is about setting healthy boundaries.

The foundation of the No Contact Rule is about setting healthy boundaries. The purpose of setting boundaries is to define your limits. Setting a healthy boundary signifies taking a stand for you, protecting yourself, and taking care of yourself.

No Contact is a boundary rule and is a critical aspect to your recovery and of freeing yourself from toxic relationship patterns.

No Contact is unequivocal and clear-cut with-- NO loopholes -- NO excuses.

Is applying the No Contact Rule permanent?

Well, if the relationship has been a definite addiction; if it was dysfunctional, toxic, unhealthy, hurtful; if your partner had a pattern of being verbally or physically abusive, disrespectful, manipulating and/or indifferent to your feelings, wants and needs— then absolutely!-- detachment must be permanent.

Moreover, the permanency is especially true if you are sick and tired of the pain of being so dependent on one person-- and truly desire an authentic, fulfilling relationship in your future. * If you have kids with your ex, permanent No Contact is likely not possible when your ex has a relationship with them.

Keeping the addiction going will surely keep you stay stuck in your love addiction and for each and every contact, you immediately go back to square one. Every contact with your ex is equivalent to putting a knife into your chest — then pouring salt on the open wound, it hurts.
Like Love Addiction... No Contact is serious business
Let's be honest--  No Contact is definitely not easy or painless. Love addiction is bad in many ways. The experience of withdrawing and cutting your ex off is an arduous consequence of having been in an addictive relationship. It feels impossible. It can feel like torture. It can even feel like death.

It is no doubt the most difficult challenge in this beginning stage of recovery.

Yet, you must be assured, you can and will survive. It pays off in the end. If you act- there is light ahead. All the twisted obsessions, distortions, and confusing thoughts want to convince you that you cannot live without your ex? that he/she was your soul mate, the magical one. It is not reality. Do not believe it.

Understand this---all the irrational obsessive thoughts in your head are nothing but your addiction talking. The voices of addiction are always full of deceitfulness, lies, and manipulations.

Get it in your head your ex toxic to you. Your ex is not the answer. Your value, worth and existence is not based on someone else. Do not accept the falsehood that he/she is the answer to your problems?NOT true; never has been.

Discovering to honor who you are as a human being, honoring your personal wants and needs, and learning to love you is the answer to your problems.

Again, the longer you take the "hits" of contact, the more you feed the fix, and the longer you put your recovery at a complete stand still. So move forward wisely.

The No Contact Rule is a critical step to heal and get past the pain. Adhere to the No Contact Rule with a fighting attitude, and an acknowledgement, that you deserve better and are finished settling for less.

Draw a line in the sand, and declare to yourself, "No More"! And once you do- reach out for support and leap the worthy path of recovery.
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There are two ways of spreading light:
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Don't ask why someone is still hurting you; ask why you keep letting them.What you allow continues.

At some point you have to get sick of going through the same sh!t.

Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men. It is not your job to fix ,parent, raise or change him.
You want a partner not a project.

 

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