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Our Community / Full Moon Alert VII
« Latest by UrsaMajor on Today at 06:04:36 AM »
This thread will be quiet for a while until I find a new source. The person that used to write these "forecasts" (Tony Bell) sadly passed away in July so.... I am looking for a new source to keep you all enlightened and entertained...
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Our Community / Links/Blogs/Articles for us all to share 10
« Latest by Nas on August 11, 2026, 03:58:23 PM »
Z, your playlist is Nas approved 😜

Another resonant quote from the article you shared is this one:
“I think that the greatest challenge of both thru-hiking and grief is accepting what is rather than what could or should be.”
If I may muse for a second: I have personally seen that quote get a little bit bastardized. Completely decoupling it (haha) from any notion of reconciliation, I like the quote and the should part I completely agree with. But depending on what the grief is and what the circumstances are, the could part can be a gray area. Thinking about “what could be” could be (haha again) part of one’s growth. “Could” to me is part of possibility and possibility is part of l/arises from self-awareness.
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Our Community / Links/Blogs/Articles for us all to share 10
« Latest by zartheit on August 11, 2026, 02:28:08 PM »
Came across someone talking a bit about their experience hiking the Appalachian Trail as a way of processing the grief of losing their father:
https://thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/there-is-no-done-reflections-on-a-completed-at-thru-hike/

Here are some quotes that I feel would resonate with us here.
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I cannot describe the agony of walking twenty miles through driving rain to someone who has not walked twenty miles through driving rain. I cannot explain the awe of waking up to a rainbow mountaintop sunrise to someone who has not woken up to a rainbow mountaintop sunrise. [...]
I just can’t explain it. I can barely make sense of it myself.
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After Dad died, life seemed to follow a different order. His loss was a tsunami-sized dismantling of what I believed, what mattered, and what I thought I could control – a complete reversal of my previous notion that life was stable and secure. It was a terrible, and necessary, awakening. Grief taught me to live by a different set of rules: to not only expect, but accept, the unexpected.
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I think that the greatest challenge of both thru-hiking and grief is accepting what is rather than what could or should be.
I'm going to stop now or I'll just quote everything.

🎵 This is for all those music heads out there! Tried to get a nice cross-section of appropriate tunes to spin for you. I feel confident each of us has been to every single one of these places at one time or another on this journey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Pk2bKF3xs - UK74R1512040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-C9pUGszsw - somebody to love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1L_fLJX7Gk - stay with me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoFHatryJQ - my sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T93Pebbjgc - give u up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDKGnFeLnF4 - medicine for horses
And of course :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBtcd75mpPM - I still got it
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Our Community / Filing for Divorce
« Latest by Dragonfly33 on August 11, 2026, 12:36:54 PM »
Totally agree with Madluv.
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Our Community / Filing for Divorce
« Latest by MadLuv on August 11, 2026, 03:18:47 AM »
It is so hard to divorced someone you love. I did it in 90 days and I like you saw a empathetic man who walked away with basically his clothes only turn into a cold and more narcissistic man. I don’t miss the man he is now at all, but I will say I see him now as two different men. The man I married and lived with for 30 years and the man he is now. I miss who I thought he was and maybe was, but not who he has become. I’m so glad you are settled and coming through the other side of all this pain and loss. It is like grieving a death of someone and it never truly fully heals, but you do live on and enjoy a new normal once again.
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Our Community / My Beloved has passed away
« Latest by MadLuv on August 11, 2026, 03:10:07 AM »
What a wonderful share and so true. I don’t think we ever stop trying to make some sense of it all, but this is the one thing that trying to make sense of it is senseless. Once we get to a better place the trauma still remains. Like any trauma based from love. You can’t really ever fully escape it, but there is happiness and joy still to be had. Thank you for sharing
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Our Community / Re: My Beloved has passed away
« Latest by Songanddance on August 10, 2026, 12:32:05 AM »
xy - it has been a year or more since I last visited this forum and I am so sorry for your loss.

You loved your H deeply and never gave up on him.  He knew that and it is heartening to see that he showed you that he knew how much he loved you and you him.

The nervous system does indeed keep the score and I would argue that understanding that can mean that you can realign your nervous system but it takes time and help.

In the meantime - be kind to yourself.

Hugs from across the pond x
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Our Community / My MLC Story - The Beginning of the New Beginning
« Latest by Nas on August 08, 2026, 09:04:06 AM »
Hi Thundarr. Congrats on your practice and upcoming marriage. And I’m very sorry for the loss of your friend. I think that loss, especially at this stage of our lives, automatically leads to a lot of existential reflection.

I have to say my first response to your most recent post was to say that I don’t think of MLC as a psychosis that comes out of nowhere with no signs or something that a person has no control over. I think I know enough to know I don’t know enough, but my thought has always been that a lot of it has to do with poor coping mechanisms, lack of sense of self, unhealed psychological wounding… And did I mention poor coping mechanisms? Having never even been taught the things that most people are taught from a young age, having basically built myself from scratch starting in infancy alone with no external support or guidance, having endured extreme abuse of all forms in my life, as well as dealing with the gruesome fallout of the end of my marriage at the same time as a very long, very difficult, very lonely battle with cancer, I can honestly say I have never for a single second been worried that I was going to sleep with someone else’s partner, lie, cheat, steal, go on a spending spree with money I don’t have, gamble, treat people like $h!te, say horrible nasty things to people, make anyone cry, abandon people for no reason, or anything else that falls under the umbrella of what we attribute to MLC.
In short, I’ve never for a second worried that I’m going to have anything close to what we refer to as MLC. Because I don’t think that someone having a crisis is entirely unaware of their behavior or in a psychosis at the level that they cannot control themselves. We all make choices in our lives. It’s my personal opinion that many people, perhaps most people, make their choices based on some kind of deeply held survival instinct, which doesn’t mean that their survival is at risk but just that it is so deeply ingrained in them to seek out, react and respond based on what they think they need to survive, and often that makes people make selfish choices, or more nuanced, self-serving choices that sometimes hurt other people. But I don’t think there are very many cases of people who have absolutely no control over their actions or the choices they’re making. That’s just my personal opinion, for what it’s worth.
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Our Community / My MLC Story - The Beginning of the New Beginning
« Latest by Thundarr on August 08, 2026, 08:30:04 AM »
One of the things I think most, if not all, of us struggle with in trying to understand MLC is the fear that we too may succumb to it as our spouses/ ex-spouses did. This week I lost my best friend and next-door neighbor of 15 years to cancer and it has been traumatic to say the least. He was only six months older than me and we had everything in common, most importantly our sense of humor and dedication to family. While it has put me on a downward spiral it has made me both extremely sad and angry at various times because he deserved better. I know that losing someone close is one of the primary triggers for MLC but I don't (yet) feel the desire to abandon my responsibilities and start having affairs or spending ridiculously. I know those are stereotypes but have been the reality for most of us. I am getting remarried in two months. started my own private practice this year for the first time ever and car-shopping for a new vehicle but those things were in the planning stages for quite some time. I don't know how MLC feels from the inside and I pray to God that I never do. What it has done to my XW is devastating to say the least and she is barely a shade of the person she once was. I pray I remain who I am and have already been through a ton of tragedies in life that would have broken me had I not had faith and family, including a close circle of friends, and have faith I can make it through this as well. It has hit different though.....

Peace to you all.
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Sounds like a whole new adventure, SS!

:)

JB

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