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Has your MLC'er filed for divorce?

No, still living at home.
3 (7.5%)
No, but has threatened (living at home).
4 (10%)
No, but we are separated.
14 (35%)
Yes, paperwork is in process.
11 (27.5%)
We are divorced.
8 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 40

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#30: November 04, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
I agree with DGU that women may go through MLC faster than men but are more likely to file for divorce. That is why I have been motivated by the time that has gone by (eight months) and my w has not filed for divorce or threatened divorce in over two months. However eight months is a small amount of time for MLC even for a female.

She will be leaving in two weeks. I thought about having another "r" talk with her about taking this time to think about her choices while she is alone. I decided against this. Regardless of my speech, my w is going to think about the r while she is with her sister in WA. Why restate the obvious?

I have a feeling that when she returns, she will have made up her mind one way or the other while she spends time away from all of us.

I am going to rearrange and change the house while she is gone. Not to make her angry, but so that she will come home to a different environment, a different place, something new so that she can see change and feel change in her world.

If she has decided to move on, it will hasten the departure. If she is wanting to stay, she may be excited and like the fact that we redecorated the house for her. 

Any input on this is greatly appreciated and for some reason since Still's h went nuts, I have been on pins and needles about this whole divorce mess.

It seemed a couple of months ago everything was going well for several threads and now we face dark storms on several fronts.

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Re: Divorce Poll
#31: November 04, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
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for some reason since Still's h went nuts, I have been on pins and needles about this whole divorce mess.

Geez, Ready.

I was having a better day until you reminded me that

MY H IS NUTS!
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Re: Divorce Poll
#33: November 04, 2010, 09:14:11 PM
RTFMF, as well as the sad stories of separation and divorce, we've seen a couple of more positive stories lately too, with Baxter, Patience and Free At Last. ShantillyLace also wrote some insightful recollections about her experience as a walk away wife that returned.

I sometimes have a smile at FHO's thread when she frequently begins an entry with 'saw my H today' ... because that seems to be nearly every day! :) I think who is he fooling!? It is probably only a matter of a short time for him - and FHO sounds so sweet that he would have to be king of the dumb-asses to not notice her.

In my case, my wife and I are just beginning the process of mediation after a year and a half of this. If we didn't have children, my wife says she would have just walked. The primary goal of mediation is so that she doesn't lose custody rights. My wife has separated herself much more from me now. It was a continuous process, and I guess I've enabled her to wean herself off this nice life that we had - though I think I did what I should have, which was to not ask her to leave. She made all of her own choices. Right now it is beginning to feel to me that she is not my wife anymore. I'm soon going to change my username here, because I don't know what I'm holding on to any more.

The fact is for me that although my wife stayed for a year and a half after bomb drop, it was to work on herself. She has been consistent all along that she wanted to separate. There was literally nothing I could do, short of mutate into the other man, that could cause her to change her mind ... and even then I suspect there would be some random form of repulsion.

RcR in her advice to me a few months ago told me that most MLCers separate. She indicated that our forum ( at that time ) was unusual in that so many lived at home. She told me that my wife was not done with replay and wouldn't be for a long time. She needed the energy of replay - an EA or PA. Except I guess they won't be affairs because she won't be married any more.

So far this has been a fairly isolated journey for me. I've turned inward a lot lately. The people that I love, and that love me want me to separate. They tell me that I'll see things more clearly and that I'm young enough to find someone new. They're worried. I don't tell them that I'm standing - for now, because I know what they would say. But I think they know that I love this girl.

As we begin this process of separation, and as she increasingly hides away from me, I am anxious about the future, but I'm accepting it somehow. The past few days I've felt more aware of the times when we had fun together, and of the amazing things that we did as a couple and as a family. I am sure that the stimulus was the death of her dad - even the terminal illness of him, and I know that the childhood she lived left her conditioned to relate in challenging ways. Mine too - though not nearly as sensitive as hers.

And that's the tricky part for her now in this journey. There's a very realistic likelihood that we'll never reconcile, from what I've read of women that were abused as children. Right now she doesn't even say hello or goodnight to me anymore. I am sure that there is an enormous amount of denial and projection happening. But I can see too that some of the persona that was imprisoned in her history is emerging and I can see that she is genuinely searching to find herself, and also researching to prepare herself for a new life.

This poll was a good initiative. We should do one each month and watch how it trends.

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Re: Divorce Poll
#34: November 04, 2010, 09:38:22 PM
Holdingon, one of the things HB told me that I need to wrap my head around is what do I have to loose? He's already walked away and although we were in contact for 14 months, none of that was real to him. It was just his sense of obligation. I just didn't see it that way at the time.

Perhaps they must cut free totally to do the work that they must do and as painful as it is for us, that's the only way for us to change too. I am beginning to realize that I was not an equal partner for many years and that my needs were not being met. Someday, if he doesn't return, I think I'll be able to look at the great times we had and hopefully not have any bitterness.

I liked your phrase "But I think they know I love this girl". I love my Beloved too. Is that not something..to love with agape love someone who shuts you out and throws what is good away. Who is loosing here?

Any stats out there ( re reconciling) are only numbers...there are always going to be the ones that nobody ever thought would make it and then the ones that everyone thought would and did not. If there was just some way that we could find some peace in all of this, no matter what happens.

You are a good man, continue to love her for that is what you want to do and she cannot take that away from you.
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Re: Divorce Poll
#35: November 05, 2010, 03:31:15 AM
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Right now she doesn't even say hello or goodnight to me anymore.

My H stopped doing that several months ago. He would just look right through me. It made me feel like I had absolutely no value in his eyes. He would greet the checker at Walmart with more than I received.

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He's already walked away and although we were in contact for 14 months, none of that was real to him. It was just his sense of obligation.

I definitely think my has H stayed only out of obligation to our children (and he repeatedly confirms this).
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Re: Divorce Poll
#36: November 05, 2010, 08:04:14 AM
Ok, so I have some legitimate questions about the definition of separation after keeping up with this...

I know no one here is a divorce lawyer, but b4 I make an ass of myself by making a phone call...and spending the money...I wanted some opinions...

since H "left"

we have gone on 2 family trips, spent every holiday together, birthdays... do family things often...

all along but more so in the past several months...he has stayed overnight here, in "our" bed, has eaten many meals here, showers here often...etc...

I am wondering if this is a "real" separation...or am I nuts???

now, he has also filed for divorce...back in July, and our court papers on custody issues state that we are residing together and trying to reconcile...this at the end of Sept...

H says divorce...everything else says not very accurate...what would you do??

of course I want to drag out the time frames as much as I possibly can...
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2 years since he left... divorce was filed a year ago, nothing going on right now. Seems like he and OW are done...will take some more time! Seems comfortable being around me and the girls. Relaxed without her, but does not want me...or anyone else...all that matters are his daughters...

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Re: Divorce Poll
#37: November 05, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
My H filed papers really fast...  I talked to a friend who was the leaver in her marriage (she is not MLC, just other issues)...

Her thought was that while she still loved her husband, she felt she needed to step away and file papers to feel safer.  She felt that it gave her distance even though in her head she was more then willing to make the marriage work if her husband would fix himself.  It was somewhat of a statement to him, and a way for her to feel relief from the pressures on her.

Just thought it was an interesting perspective.  I've had a number of people tell me that's why they think my H filed papers so fast.  So that I would cease all communication and give him his space to sort out his own thoughts.  I can only hope that's really what's going through his head... :(
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Re: Divorce Poll
#38: November 05, 2010, 09:13:43 AM
Two weeks after BD during another mind-boggling conversation with my H I flat out asked "Are you planning to serve me with divorce papers next week?"  With a very surprised expression he said "NO, I haven't thought about that at all!"  Considering how adamant he is about being "so done" with me I was quite surprised to hear that.
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Re: Divorce Poll
#39: November 05, 2010, 09:15:26 AM
Most states say separation begins when you are no longer sleeping in the same room. However, that is hard to prove since one spouse could say we slept one night on the couch. Therefore, it only really becomes legal separation when one spouse moves out and has a residence of their own and does not come to live at the other spouses house at all.

From my point of view, you and your spouse are not legally separated at all. However laws vary from state to state. I am still trying to find one state where you can hit the adulterous spouse with at least one rock.

Hope my information helps.
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