[Thunder]

denjef,

I so agree with stillluvhim, you are putting yourself out there for so many people when you have so much going on yourself.  You are truly an amazing person with a talent for helping people.

All the questions you are asked have been, not only answered with patience but with caring and real insight.  You make yourself so accessible.  I don't know how you do it.

I salute you as one of the biggest asset Hero's Spouse has ever had.
Just wish I had a question.  lol

Take care of yourself.

[Nas]

Ditto

[No expectations]

Thank you Denjaf.  I will absolutely follow your advice.  You're so right, this is his crisis, not mine. 

[Never say never]

I agree with Thunder ... DenJef, I don't know how you do it with your busy schedule.  You are such an asset to this site, it is unreal.  You have knowledge from both sides of the story and we all want your version so bad and it has to be so much pressure for you to read everyone's post and offer your advice.

Bottom line, we all want to hear positive feedback and are looking for you to be a magician, and unfortunately, you are not.  You are a human being, just like we are, and can only offer firsthand knowledge of what you actually went through, which is invaluable.  This is information that is to be treasured.

I only wish I didn't have the jealousy attached to this.  I wish I could rise above my H being with the OW every night and see the anguish he is going through every night.  This is by far the hardest thing I have had to go through in my life.

Having gone through this yourself, does this give your more patience with your H than us average LBSes who don't know what our MLCer is going through?  Also, are you able to discuss things with your MLCer because you can relate with him what he is going through?  My H and I have NO COMMUNICATION AT ALL.  NONE. 

THANKS, DEN JEF.  WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR INPUT.

[denjef31]

Your wife's illness is not unique but it is something that is not talked about on this forum much if at all.

If by Watcher's wife illness you mean depression, we have always talked about depression on the board, and still do. Of all types of depression, clinical, post-partum, situational, MLC, bipolar (a type of depression with two poles, a manic and a depressive one), etc.

We have several threads on depression:

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=8495.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=1646.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=4550.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?board=23.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=307.0


Depression is also talked about on the Links/blogs/articles for us all to share  threads:

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=7723.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=7143.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=1231.0

as well as on the Biochemistry, neurotransmitters and brain research threads:

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=7709.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=6315.0

http://mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=1786.0


Depression is also mentioned in several personal story threads. And it has always been. Current members that often post about their depression and PTSD include Barbiedoll and My Brain is Broken.

Many of mine older threads, especially the ones around the time I was taking courses on Coursera on neuroscience/neurobiology are full of posts about depression, bipolar as well as the differences between them and the difference between mood and personality disorder.

Ready2's threads also cover a lot of ground on those fields.

Checking Shantily Lace/Hope Floats old threads and post will also offer a good view on depression.

The fact that a person suffers from depression or bipolar does not mean a person cannot add MLC to their existing illness. Old Pilot's mother is bipolar and has had a MLC.

Anjae,

Hmm here we go again. I never implied that a person who is bipolar or suffering a mood disorder or major depressive disorder cant mutually exist with MLC. I was only telling Watcher that his wife illness was more than just MLC. I have read some of those articles you posted when I first came to this board. I am aware of those and I realize it is discussed but hardly when you compare the number of threads and discussions that are posted daily about MLC.

Done here goodnite

Denjef31

[Thunder]

Good night, den.

Tomorrow is another day.   

[Keep believing]

Den, i agree with thunder with all your time and patience. Thank . I do beleive you are helping me through this.
Funny though , i do bleive h iknows im moving  on. Not completely .  but just about done. Things have changed a bit with him cant quite explain. But im not sure if its good or bad. The way he talks makes it sound like he has ade the decision to stay gone and be done. Im ok with that at least there could be an answer on his part. I know i dont need h. What gets me about all this that makes me sad is im lonely. ( yes i go out and have peeps) it having no companion at the presemt moment. And its been too long.

[denjef31]

Thunder,

Thank you. I do want to give you a sincere shout out for being such a positive person on this board for so so so many people. Every time I read a post from you, you have always come from a position of being real, but also being kind and respectful that people are hurting. Your advice is the truth but kind. It is I and so many others should be thanking you for the wonderful contribution you give to this forum. There are a lot of others who display this same kindness and well I just got up this morning thinking about some post I read and you were in them and I noticed this same pattern of kindness in all of them.

I do feel much better today after I got some rest. Thanks again!

Denjef31

[Nas]

Agreed again, Thunder!  You are always one of the first friendly welcomes to newbies and you have been with me on my journey since day one. 

[Christina13]

I was thinking the same thing last night. Thanks Thunder.